10-08-2013, 02:53 AM
Lauren Johnson Wrote:Quote:Gladio was practice runs. Terrorism freaks people out... you can blame whomever because no one gets caught and there are no trials. Doesn;t matter who does it as much as how it is spun. The right acts claiming it's the left and the left becomes the bad guys... That works. No matter who does what grab the mic and tell the story and make it stick.
Of course, you do realize that Gladio was a MIHOP operation. And it was deep politics all the way. Parallel governmental structures. Run out of NATO. Other three letter orgs in on it. Cut outs. False fronts. And it was one big, organized, from the top, very successful psyop.
So why would such a strong tradition of top down psy ops suddenly have to vanish as these parallel deep structures with such a long history lay down and go dormant and just wait for something to happen.
Jeffrey, your "position" can't get out of its own way. You can't stand truthers except you are one. Your LIHOP dissolves into 'nobody decided anything' except when somebody decided to make a MIHOP out of what nobody decided not to do.
I am interested in understand what happened... who isn't? We really never get to see the real deal.. only the PR and the official statements.
Gladio was created after WWII as a check by the right on the leftists who were being supported by the USSR. The left had popular support... and communists were and are a recognized party in Italy for sure. My deceased brother in law was involved in the communist party in Tuscany and was a marxist economist. The right of course fear the left and their fascist pro capitalist view of the world was diametrically opposed to the communists. In the US we had the idiotic red scare of HUAC... the right was on a hunt to get the left. And so intel decided to engage in a series of terrorist attacks blame it on the left to turn the people against the left and demand the state crack down on them. Nasty SOBs. They infiltrated the red brigades and the bider meinhof.
This strategy turned out to be rather effective especially when the truth of who did what was concealed by the right who were in power and it was not in their interest to reveal it. False flags have been used at times to create excuses for militarist adventurism. Terrorism by definition is meant to instill fear in the public. But fear of what or whom? The guys with the mic get to tell the story. In fact, the guys with the mic ALWAYS get to tell the story.
It's hard to deny hive mentality or group think. People identify with a group and share its values and goals and so forth. They don't have to read and rehearse talking points... only talking heads do that. All people inside the MIC partake in the same (more or less) hive behavior and thinking. In fact.. they all know who the enemy is... how could they not? When you are a hammer... every problem looks like a nail and you slam it as the hammer that you are.
Of course Gladio was a fascist series of MIHOPs... they've got the admissions and documents to prove it. And it's likely that the practice continues because intel is engaged in criminality and black ops and ALL CRIMINALS try to pin the blame on someone else... or at least have an alibi... but better to have some one else framed and that settles that. LHO was a patsy wasn't he? Having one was part of closing the book and dead ending the investigation... killing him AND Ruby etc.. made that so much easier. Destroy evidence and it makes solving the crime harder and less certain.
Remember when terrorist committed their crimes with a stated purpose or demand and did not hide who they were? Their demands were political or to free one of theirs who was captured. Never worked really and so the tactic was changed to shear unadulterated terror... why exchange hostages if they are going to kill you anyway? That changed terrorism. People with the mic get to tell the story no matter what happened who did want or why.
Terrorism and insurgencies DO exist. CIA etc. has counter terrorism and anti insurgency guys because they have to deal with it before it deals with them. But you can be damn certain that the fascists will never come down on right wing terrorists and blame the left for acts they didn't commit. People with the mic get to tell the story no matter what happened who did want or why.
The empire created an insurgency problem in her colonies. The natives were and continue to be restless. This is to be expected when you run an empire as our guys do. Gives our guys something to do... find em and kill em... set up stings and kill em and make sure the public is aware of these threats periodically. Why not expect a big attack? If someone can think it up... they will try. Bojinka was an old plot and it was known that one day some hijack plane attack would have to be met. They even gamed it each Fall.
Real or memorex? Hardly matters because it was the outcome which is the REAL horror--- militarism and war...and that comes from the empire not at the empire.