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Some Misunderstandings Related to WTC Collapse Analysis
Lauren Johnson Wrote:With regards to some witness testimony about explosions at ground level or even below ground level, what is your read there? It gets dismissed as jet fuel come down the elevator shafts.

Lauren, there is not a chance that the tremendous damage done to the large lobby in the North Tower was caused by jet fuel coming down elevator shafts from 1,100 feet up. For the following reasons.

1. Only about 5,000 gallons made it into the towers unexploded, as much of the 10,000 gallons on each aircraft was aerosolized and went up in fireballs either outside or inside.
2. 5,000 gallons is the amount in a 3.5 foot high x 15 foot diameter backyard pool.
3. The wing tanks spanned about four floors, so the 5,000 gallons was spread over four floors. That leaves 1,250 gallons per floor.
4. 1,250 gallons spread over just half the acre size floor would be a .093 inch thick film on just the floor and not counting the additional surface area of partitions, desks, chairs, draperies, etc.
5. It is clear that there would be very little left over to make the trip down the elevator shafts and then surface tension on the four gypsum walls of the shafts would suck up a lot of whatever was there.
6. There was only two elevators that ran between the 93rd floor (which would be the lowest point of the fuel during the impact) and the lobby and sub-levels. This was out of 36 elevator shafts on each floor. The reason for this is that the elevator system was staggered to use less space. There were 99 elevators in each tower, but they only ran to the 44th and 78th floor sky lobbies and then you took a local that ran between them. Only a couple of elevators ran top to bottom.
7. Even if the fuel could get down the shafts it isn't clear why it would explode when it got to the bottom. Fuel needs to be vaporized to be ignitable and/or explosive and Jet fuel has a very high vaporization temperature (about 140 deg. F whereas gas is -45 deg. F) for safety reasons. I put matches out in it in 5 gallon drums when I was an aircraft mechanic in the Navy just to prove the point, since there was no vapor at room temperature there would be no ignition.

I would be surprised if even a drop of fuel from the aircraft actually made the 1,100 foot trip down to the lobby or the sub-levels, where the fuel is also blamed for destruction and explosions. It is all a big hand wave hoax with no science behind it. Kind of like the one bullet that was alleged to have caused all of Connolly's wounds and two of Kennedy's and remain somewhat pristine looking like it had been fired into a water tank or cotton tube. That story was obviously concocted because those charged with explaining the murder as a lone gunman argument ran out of ammo to be fired by one man in the time allotted and they had to account for the wound to James Tague. The Kennedy murder cover-up artists only had two bullets to explain all of the wounds with if they wanted to keep it to one shooter, just like the 911 cover-up artists only had 5,000 gallons total 1,100 feet up on four separate floors to explain all of the damage and destruction to the lobby and sub-levels if they wanted to keep it to aircraft impact and fires caused all of the damage and destruction in the building. There are a lot of parallels between the two situations.


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Some Misunderstandings Related to WTC Collapse Analysis - by Tony Szamboti - 15-08-2013, 03:16 AM

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