THE HOLE IN THE WINDSHIELD: www.JFKThe FrontShot.blogspot.com

[Gordon Gray]

I am happy to concede to any theory once it has been tested thusly: trust
nothing until it had been so severely
challenged, it could not be discredited I I don't believe anyone has held their evidence up to this standard.

Fair enough...

How does your... "No hole in the windshield" theory stand up to this test?

Are there photos showing no hole, only an impact?
Any documented tests done on the windshield?
They did macrophotography on CE399... no such luck with that windshield, huh?

Frazier did a complete exam of the limo late night, early 11/23 morning. there were only so many fragments found within the limo...

IF the crack was a result of a fragment from INSIDE (Bone or bullet?) which of the fragments does the FBI attribute to the cracked windshield?
(I don't see where BONE fragments are discussed... or identified within the LIMO schematics of fragments.... were there NO BONE FRAGMENTS found in the limo?

Any fragments have glass imbedded?


CE841 is supposedly the scrapings from the INSIDE of the windshield that contained lead. (looks alot like a closed version of ce840) So I guess we need to find where they actually determined this was lead and how.
(I am suspicious since we have a variety of "containers for evidence" with nothing inside them - like the Kleins microfilm.)

http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc..._0433b.htm

and as we read either Cunningham or Killion... neither mentions the windshield. CC makes a drawing of CE351 and adds some interesting comments

Plus, one would think if a single small fragment was able to create this on the windshield - does it not seem strange that no one else in the limo forward of JFK was struck by any of these fragments - enough to cause a windshield to crack or chrome to dent... do you not find it strange that there is no notation of BONE in the limo other than what is found on the plane trip back?

And Kinney goes so far in 1978 as to say that C3 "looked like it hit the {chrome}" but nothing related to the windshield....

SA Kinney gave him his seat and returned to the resar compartment. At this point he discovered in the Presidential limousine (1) a skull fragment under the jump seat where Connally had been seated, and (2) a bullet fragment in the front seat between the driver's and passenger's seat. He remarked that the bullet fragment "looked like it had hit the windshield frame above the windshield."

How do you plan on putting your theories and conclusions to the same test and set of standards Anthony has for his hole theory?

Been over a month now GG...

Any plans for holding yourself to the same standards you expect of others... and presenting YOUR results as we have... ??

Just sayin'

:coffee:

Are there any photo's that clearly show a through and through bullet hole in the windshield? Is there any conclusive evidence as to what direction what ever caused the defect in the windshield, came? I have no theories and I make no conclusions. I am just evaluating the evidence. There is a strong suggestion that there was a frontal shot through the windshield but the evidence is not conclusive in my opinion (certainly nothing you have presented is). So I choose not to regard it as a fact. It is impossible for a shot from the S. Knoll area to have struck Kennedy in the throat without striking Connally first, or at least whizzing past his ear, given the President's position in the far right rear seat at that time. It is possible that a shot from that area could have stuck him in the temple at 313, because he has shifted in his seat more to the center. I tend to doubt any shots from the S. Knoll area because there is only one witness to that as far as I know and that is Plumlee and I am not sure I find him credible.