22-08-2013, 10:30 PM
Jeff Carter Wrote:requoted and addressed in red below
The claim of private property rights tosuch an important piece of evidence seems absurd on its face. I suspect itserved as an excuse explaining why access to the film was so relativelylimited. I have no problem believing that the camera original was at NPIC overthe weekend, and in fact it should have been as part of an investigation into amajor crime.
Except the CIA claims they did not have any contact or interest in the Zapruder film… that has ALWAYS been their stance… NPIC was created by the CIA/DoD in 1960 as a result of Kirkpatrick Joint Study Group recommendations. We also come to find that the film given to Homer on Sunday was "processed" at theCIA/Kodak facility in Rochester NY Hawkeye works.
According to the stories told, the original went from Zapruder to Stolley to Chicago to NY, all in the possession of LIFE.
I have a hard time believing that the camera original was ever projected, or ifit was, not more than once or twice. 8mm film is easily scratched and even asingle trip through a projector runs the risk of damage. The high speed machineat the lab is a common piece of gear used to ensure developed film has noprocessing flaws, and it built to ensure there is no risk of scratching. Anyoneon scene who had their wits about them, would have insisted a copy beimmediately made for actual viewing.
According to Phil Chamberlain Jr - the 16mm unslit original film was shown ONCE on the inspection projector at 4x speed. It is not known whether THAT FILM was ever shown again.
While the film was at Kodak, Zapruder popped over to the WFAA studios andappeared on television.
That's not correct. Zapruder went to Dallas Morn News who could NOT process film. He went next to WFAA and did a short interview. Sorrels has DPD Officers Osborne and JB Jones take the entire group, including Sorrels, to KODAK, after theinterview…. Sorrels leaves to talk withOswald back at DPD while the Film is being developed and printed leaving NO SS AGENTS AT KODAK… How did he get back to DPD?
I don't buy the story about limiting the viewing of the Zapruder film to theCommission because of concerns over burning the film. A single trip through an8mm projector risked scratching the film, and, if truly concerned and if it wastruly the camera original, the stewards of the film would not have allowed anyprojection. This possibly served as an excuse to limit the viewing. TheCommission should have had a copy of the film during the entire time of theirwork, and the claim that LIFE owned it and so it was inaccessible seems acover.
The film shown in January 1964 was a 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] or 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] gen copy and was deemed not good enough.
The film shown on Feb 25[SUP]th[/SUP] 1964 was supposedly the LIFE original. I am checking on that.
Interestingly, the CBS Warren Commission news special from 1967 features aneditorial by Walter Cronkite where he criticizes LIFE for refusing to allow CBSaccess to the film. He questions private property rights against the right toknow.
Film alteration to the extent that a patch was added to cover the back ofKennedy's head following the fatal shot, and also perhaps the pink cloud at313, could have been done relatively easily and in an afternoon. It appearsthat Sunday Nov 24 might have seen that work. Film alteration beyond that leavesme with serious reservations.
With all due respect, there are a number of physical impossibilities that occur which cannot be removed via the painting process you mention (nor is what you mention all that "easy") The most obvious ones occur between 285 and 325. The removal of the limo "pause" we will call it, which in turn removed the frames where debris is seen leaving the BACK of JFK's head is wholesale alteration. The movement of Greer is physically impossible in the time/frames given. And finally, there is very strong evidence of a shot occurring well pastthe z313 location.
I agree that the paint over portion of the alteration is most obvious and much easier to accomplish than the removal of frames… I simply suggest you dive into the available research already done to illustrate the Zfilm problems… There are a number of conclusions though thatI still cannot agree with…such as the time it takes to get to a completely altered film and some of the anomalies offered.
In my opinion, the concern with the Zapruder film was to limit itsaccessibility, primarily because of the backwards movement of Kennedy's body,which could not be explained against the lone nut hypothesis.
Consider this Jeff…. Why would the SS allow the Zfilm even after Sorrels sees what it showed, which HAD to include the obvious shots from the front out of their sight unless they KNEW it would serve as the timestamp and authenticated evidence of what happened… after it was fixed.
By allowing the Zfilm to be considered AUTHENTICATED AS EVIDENCE with a believable chain of possession to those who don't look too hard… frames from this film MUST be what happened…yet if one watches even the altered film one is struck by the impossibility of at least one shot coming from the front… the impossibility of the SBT (go look at CD298 for the FBI explanation/modelof the shots and ask yourself where did they get their info) and what occurred prior to 171.
David, if Zapruder switched his camera to 48fps before picking up the motorcadeagain at Z133, then the frame rate would have had to stay at 48fps rightthrough to the final frame.
I'm not sure about that. The button on the camera allowed for the immediate switch from normal to slo-mo. In fact here is the page out of the manual…
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Jeff I greatly appreciate your involvement in the conversation yet I sincerely suggest you dig around a little and get some of the facts straight before making such definitive statements. I've been at this for two decades, have a photographic memory and gigs and gigs of reference material on flash drives at my ready.
I thoroughly enjoy any and all respectful discussion and am willing to consider most any theory offered with some level of authenticated support…
Cheers
DJ
Once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter

