Are there statements from Kodak employees who saw the Zfilm friday?

[David Josephs]

I don't know who is following this discussion, but the implications of this information is astonishing -

"…(Brugioni) also said that the Secret Service was vitally interested in timing how many seconds occurred between various frames, and that Ralph Pearse informed them, to their surprise and dismay, that this would be a useless procedure because the Bell and Howell movie camera (that they told him had taken the movie) was a spring-wound camera, with a constantly varying operating speed, and that while he could certainly time the number of seconds between various frames if they so desired, that in his view it was an unscientific and useless procedure which would provide bad data, and lead to false conclusions, or words to that effect. Nevertheless, at the request of the two Secret Service agents, Ralph Pearse dutifully used a stopwatch to time the number of seconds between various frames of interest to their Secret Service customers. Dino Brugioni said that he placed a strong caveat about the limited, or suspect, usefulness of this timing data in the briefing notes he prepared for Art Lundahl." (Doug Horne Inside The ARRB Vol IV p1233)

This establishes a massive delicious irony, and I wonder who else may have spotted it.

the film Dino saw and made boards from is no longer available to the world... it MAY have been the one seen by a diverse group (although my gut tells me this was the Rowley film)
What the SS agents did that night has nothing to do with the film we are discussing here.

While I appreciate the irony... It's like arguing that Oswald could not have shot JFK 'cause when he was in the window shooting, the rifle would have jammed, the sight was off, the pin was rusty, etc...
It assumes he was there with the rifle which is simply not true.

By any chance do you have ANYTHING from Ralph Pearse recalling what he saw while he was doing this for the SS agents?

This is what Dino said:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/2012/05/dougl...lteration/

During the follow-up interview at Dino Brugioni's home on April 28, 2011, Peter Janney showed Mr. Brugioni a good image of frame 313 from the extant Zapruder film the so-called u201Chead explosionu201D scanned from a 35 mm dupe negative of the film obtained from the National Archives. [The provenance of the frame used therefore unquestionably represents what is in the National Archives today.] Mr. Brugioni was quite startled to find out that this was the only frame graphically depicting the u201Chead explosionu201D in the extant film, which the National Archives has characterized as u201Cthe original film.u201D He insisted that the head explosion he viewed multiple times on 11/23/63 was of such a great size, and duration (in terms of time), that there should be many more frames depicting that explosion than u201Cjust the one frameu201D (frame 313), as shown in the Zapruder film today. Furthermore, he said the u201Chead explosionu201D depicted in the Zapruder film today is too small in size, and too low in the frame, to be the same graphic depiction he recalls witnessing in the Zapruder film on Saturday, November 23rd, 1963 at NPIC.

Aside from the head shot, he recalled one other thing about the extant film that was inconsistent with what he saw on 11/23/63: prior to viewing the film on July 9, 2011, he had independently recalled Secret Service agent Clint Hill either physically striking, or violently pushing Jackie Kennedy to force her from atop the trunk lid, back into the rear seat of the limousine. Brugioni spent a considerable portion of the interview attempting to find evidence of Clint Hill u201Cstriking Jackieu201D in the extant film, to no avail. He was quite mystified.

Both of these descriptions work very nicely with the removal of frames... yet of course makes the 48fps theory somewhat more difficult to comprehend.... unless the film Dino worked on was simply an intermediate alteration... Horne's NPIC article does not mention if Dino remembers Intersprocket images on the 8mm he worked on.... and as I've speculated... there is the potential that 0184 was in the process of alteration and delivery by Friday late afternoon... I have a difficult time believing that ANYONE would be allowed to officially view the original film once it left Dallas...

I've been working with a few researchers who have helped me understand the timing and possibilities...

Bottom line is that the film in the archive does not have anything to indicate it was the film taken over to Jamieson for copying...
at the end of the 16mm film 0183 would have been stamped into the B side running along the length of the film, vertical to the images. The extant film's physcial splice prior to the 19+ feet of BLACK film which would have been attached to the 0183 leader should have at least left us with BLACK FILM and 0183.

Additionally there is almost 19 FEET of spliced in BLACK film and light-struck leader AFTER this 19 feet... and after the 6'3" and 2'7" of assassination film...

How again does 25 feet of usable film, or 33 feet of total length become over 40 feet of "ORIGINAL, OUT OF THE CAMERA" exposed film?

DJ