24-08-2013, 04:25 PM
Jeff…
Ralph Pearse said it then and it's just as true now….
But that made little difference, didn't it. Why, do you suppose?
cause the SS had three shots, three hits from behind to work with…
Z313 was a given (and yet, maybe not so much)
Jeff please see http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=10699 for what the FBI was able to conclude… based on their available evidence… and see if you can make sense of it…
In terms of the HOW and WHEN of alteration… you see the benefit of working backward, even with approximate timings using the frames as they fly by…the explanation HAD to make sense… with what was shown in the movie… and there were limitations imposed by, of all things, physics. The bolt could work so fast yet the movie even the one we have now, still shows it to be impossible to have hit JFK at210 or after (the first open shot after the tree from the 6[SUP]th[/SUP] floor) and again to hit JC BEFORE 240 (although it was determined JC was out ofposition for the shot AS DESCRIBED by 235)
Plainly Jeff, that the Zfilm is not a CLOCK of the assassination is understood…but your variation in speed is unrealistic and your disregard for accuracy in what you post is alarming.
The FBI tests are what Horne reports for the fps speed tests…
The FBI tests in the assassination have been woefully misrepresented… by the FBI. Access to the Zcamera has been severely limited.
Let's focus for a second here on ONE ISSUE your claim that the fps dipped as low as id peaked as high.
The LOW (say 15-16fps) would account for the gaps in Greer's Head movement what you say which was at least 50% faster than humanly possible…
Answer this one question Jeff related to your statements that the alteration of the film can be explained by the camera's working mechanisms (which you also explained incorrectly andignored)
if the fps also sped up as muchas it slowed down WHY DO WE NOT SEE ANY SLOW MOTION SEGMENTS OF THE FILM ?
You can't have it both ways… The fps can't only be SLOWER than 18.3 to miss action while never being FASTER (19-20fps) to SLOW the action so that the AVERAGE fps is 18.3. (not to mentionyour ignoring the physics of a wound spring which moves faster in the first 30seconds and slows as it winds down.)
Again Jeff, if you're not going to acknowledge the errors you presentas facts, honestly or otherwise, and have a conversation rather than offer your "fantasy fun facts lectures", I'm afraid there's not much left for us to say to each other…
I'm working on the HOW and WHEN of alteration…. The film was NEVER to be shown to the public and when it finally was, it helped expose the lies even more so than the 26 volumes, which is quite a feat...
that the alteration was imperfect is obvious, that it served its purpose for coming on 50 years
is as well.
I will leave you with this after the WC & staff lawyers had seen the Zfilm, on 4/27/64, Norman Redlich wrote Rankin a memo which offers the following insights in the WCR:
APRIL 27, 1964
…. The report will also conclude that the bullets were fired by one person located in the sixth floor southeast corner window of the TSBD building.
As our investigation now stands, however, we have not shown that these could have possibly occurred in the manner suggested above.
…….
I should add that the facts which we now have in our possession,
SUBMITTED TO US IN SEPARATE REPORTS FROM THE FBI AND SECRET SERVICE,
Are totally incorrect and, if left uncorrected, will present a completely misleading picture.
It may well be that his projects hould be undertaken by the FBI AND SECRET SERVICE (DJ: !!!) with our assistance instead of being done as a staff project. The important thing is that the project be undertaken expeditiously.
As we know, the FBI report… from Dec 9, 1963 was not changed in anymaterial way.
And here is the SS report…http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archiv...ocId=10404
====
Getting back to the subject at hand:
David Healy knows I posed a question to him about his technical paper…His is THE best presentation of HOW it was accomplished in reference to the machinery and processes. But there is a glaring error with regards to the 0183 stamp at the end of the developed film…
0183 was not stamped over the entire 16mm width of the film but was stamped at the end of SIDE B covering only 8mm so that when slit and connected, 0183 is at the core of the wound reel at the end of the film… it is not cut in half with the side A half at the beginning and B at the end.
Understanding this and then realizing that the physical splice after both the assassination sequence and the 19+ feet of supposedly BLACK film succeeded in separating the one unique identifier on that film from the film itself… there is now no way EVER to relate those 75 inches of film to what was developed at KODAK that day….
Please correct me if I'm wrong about that DH
Thanks
DJ
Ralph Pearse said it then and it's just as true now….
But that made little difference, didn't it. Why, do you suppose?
cause the SS had three shots, three hits from behind to work with…
Z313 was a given (and yet, maybe not so much)
Jeff please see http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=10699 for what the FBI was able to conclude… based on their available evidence… and see if you can make sense of it…
In terms of the HOW and WHEN of alteration… you see the benefit of working backward, even with approximate timings using the frames as they fly by…the explanation HAD to make sense… with what was shown in the movie… and there were limitations imposed by, of all things, physics. The bolt could work so fast yet the movie even the one we have now, still shows it to be impossible to have hit JFK at210 or after (the first open shot after the tree from the 6[SUP]th[/SUP] floor) and again to hit JC BEFORE 240 (although it was determined JC was out ofposition for the shot AS DESCRIBED by 235)
Plainly Jeff, that the Zfilm is not a CLOCK of the assassination is understood…but your variation in speed is unrealistic and your disregard for accuracy in what you post is alarming.
The FBI tests are what Horne reports for the fps speed tests…
The FBI tests in the assassination have been woefully misrepresented… by the FBI. Access to the Zcamera has been severely limited.
Let's focus for a second here on ONE ISSUE your claim that the fps dipped as low as id peaked as high.
The LOW (say 15-16fps) would account for the gaps in Greer's Head movement what you say which was at least 50% faster than humanly possible…
Answer this one question Jeff related to your statements that the alteration of the film can be explained by the camera's working mechanisms (which you also explained incorrectly andignored)
if the fps also sped up as muchas it slowed down WHY DO WE NOT SEE ANY SLOW MOTION SEGMENTS OF THE FILM ?
You can't have it both ways… The fps can't only be SLOWER than 18.3 to miss action while never being FASTER (19-20fps) to SLOW the action so that the AVERAGE fps is 18.3. (not to mentionyour ignoring the physics of a wound spring which moves faster in the first 30seconds and slows as it winds down.)
Again Jeff, if you're not going to acknowledge the errors you presentas facts, honestly or otherwise, and have a conversation rather than offer your "fantasy fun facts lectures", I'm afraid there's not much left for us to say to each other…
I'm working on the HOW and WHEN of alteration…. The film was NEVER to be shown to the public and when it finally was, it helped expose the lies even more so than the 26 volumes, which is quite a feat...
that the alteration was imperfect is obvious, that it served its purpose for coming on 50 years
is as well.
I will leave you with this after the WC & staff lawyers had seen the Zfilm, on 4/27/64, Norman Redlich wrote Rankin a memo which offers the following insights in the WCR:
APRIL 27, 1964
…. The report will also conclude that the bullets were fired by one person located in the sixth floor southeast corner window of the TSBD building.
As our investigation now stands, however, we have not shown that these could have possibly occurred in the manner suggested above.
…….
I should add that the facts which we now have in our possession,
SUBMITTED TO US IN SEPARATE REPORTS FROM THE FBI AND SECRET SERVICE,
Are totally incorrect and, if left uncorrected, will present a completely misleading picture.
It may well be that his projects hould be undertaken by the FBI AND SECRET SERVICE (DJ: !!!) with our assistance instead of being done as a staff project. The important thing is that the project be undertaken expeditiously.
As we know, the FBI report… from Dec 9, 1963 was not changed in anymaterial way.
And here is the SS report…http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archiv...ocId=10404
====
Getting back to the subject at hand:
David Healy knows I posed a question to him about his technical paper…His is THE best presentation of HOW it was accomplished in reference to the machinery and processes. But there is a glaring error with regards to the 0183 stamp at the end of the developed film…
0183 was not stamped over the entire 16mm width of the film but was stamped at the end of SIDE B covering only 8mm so that when slit and connected, 0183 is at the core of the wound reel at the end of the film… it is not cut in half with the side A half at the beginning and B at the end.
Understanding this and then realizing that the physical splice after both the assassination sequence and the 19+ feet of supposedly BLACK film succeeded in separating the one unique identifier on that film from the film itself… there is now no way EVER to relate those 75 inches of film to what was developed at KODAK that day….
Please correct me if I'm wrong about that DH
Thanks
DJ
Once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter