29-08-2013, 12:27 AM
I don't believe that was what Tracy meant DH...
To Salandria and most THINKING people of the time and in the rest of the world, the conspiracy WAS obvious.
To the rest of the U.S.A. citizens, it was not OBVIOUS, in fact it was not even POSSIBLE. Those thing s simply did not happen in the grand ole US of A
To those that would consider doing anything about it, the conspiracy was OBVIOUS and THREATENING
So threatening that to acknowledge it was to sign the death warrant on a career, or on oneself...
But history and the US sheep needed to move on. They NEEDED a conclusion. They (the McAdams' of the world) also needed something to point to and defend...
as the result of the massive effort to determine the TRUTH...
The autopsy report would be THE "best evidence"
The Zapruder Film's frames would support this farce.
Most people were not even AWARE that other films of the assassination were even taken... and why we come to find the Nix original is gone and Muchmore claims to have never taken those images.
It would be ALL ZAPRUDER all the time... but only the frames an even those in the wrong order... and mislabeled.
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I am not sure if I got your drift Tracy, yet I think that was what you were asking.... the "film that almost never was" imo becomes part of the legend... Zap goes back to get his camera...
it might not have even been taken - how lucky are we... bull-puckey..
A citizen in Dallas is asked by two shotgun toting policemen to hand over a piece of evidence... Zap says no, and everyone is just fine with that. Same with the Secret Service and the FBI. :what:
Zap wants to sell the film to the highest bidder so NO the US Gov't can't have the original... Luce might as well have been LBJ's Secretary of Disinformation between TIME and LIFE.
Sorrels, in the middle of developing this film, LEAVES. Cause he MUST get to Oswlad asap ??? Leaving not a single agent or officer at KODAK - he didn't think or know there was anything on the film worth anything...
or he knew it wouldn't matter.
Rowley has an 8mm film in his possession late Saturday night.
DeLoach claims to have seent he Zfilm early, early sunday morn...
This film disappears...
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THE MAUSER:
In a case in which we find there were two of most everything in most every situation... we wonder why a 2nd rifle is described on the 6th floor.
Hoover and Elsworth both claim the rifle and shells were taken up from the 5th floor and left on the 6th AFTER the shooting.
Weitzman owned a Sporting Goods Store and knew rifles...
From the Alyea film we are see that Lt Day picked up this rifle "from its resting place" -
Alyea also tells us that FRITZ picked up the shells for the film and then threw them back on the ground...
Did FRTIZ take the Mauser? Is that other rifle a shotgun that just happens to be right next to the found murder weapon?
I did not find this scene in the Alyea I have... is this from the film or was this taken by Studebaker?
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Senator COOPER - Did you notice whether the rifle that you discovered had a telescopic sight?
Mr. BOONE - Yes, it did.
Senator COOPER - Did it have a sling?
Mr. BOONE - Yes, it did. Because Captain Fritz picked it up by the sling when he removed it from its resting place.
Mr. BALL - There is one question. Did you hear anybody refer to this rifle as a Mauser that day?
Mr. BOONE - Yes, I did. And at first, not knowing what it was, I thought it was 7.65 Mauser.
Mr. BALL - Who referred to it as a Mauser that day?
Mr. BOONE - I believe Captain Fritz. He had knelt down there to look at it, and before he removed it, not knowing what it was, he said that is
what it looks like. This is when Lieutenant Day, I believe his name is, the ID man was getting ready to photograph it.
We were just discussing it beck and forth. And he said it looks like a 7.65 Mauser.
and now the LEAD GUY, HEAD HONCHO...
Mr. FRITZ. After the pictures had been made then I ejected a live shell, a live cartridge from the rifle.
Mr. BALL. And who did you give that to?
Mr. FRITZ. I believe that I kept that at that time myself. Later I gave it to the crime lab who, in turn, turned it over to the FBI.
Mr. BALL. Did you put any marking of yours on the empty cartridge?
Mr. FRITZ. On that loaded cartridge?
Mr. BALL. On that loaded cartridge.
Mr. FRITZ. I don't know, I am not sure, I don't think so.
Mr. BALL. Did you initial the rifle?
Mr. FRITZ. The rifle; no, sir.
Mr. BALL. You didn't. Who did you give the rifle to after you ejected this live cartridge?
Mr. FRITZ. I believe that that rifle, I didn't take the rifle with me, Lieutenant Day took that rifle, I believe, to the city hall, and later I asked him to bring it down--I don't believe I ever carried that rifle to city hall
To Salandria and most THINKING people of the time and in the rest of the world, the conspiracy WAS obvious.
To the rest of the U.S.A. citizens, it was not OBVIOUS, in fact it was not even POSSIBLE. Those thing s simply did not happen in the grand ole US of A
To those that would consider doing anything about it, the conspiracy was OBVIOUS and THREATENING
So threatening that to acknowledge it was to sign the death warrant on a career, or on oneself...
But history and the US sheep needed to move on. They NEEDED a conclusion. They (the McAdams' of the world) also needed something to point to and defend...
as the result of the massive effort to determine the TRUTH...
The autopsy report would be THE "best evidence"
The Zapruder Film's frames would support this farce.
Most people were not even AWARE that other films of the assassination were even taken... and why we come to find the Nix original is gone and Muchmore claims to have never taken those images.
It would be ALL ZAPRUDER all the time... but only the frames an even those in the wrong order... and mislabeled.
---
I am not sure if I got your drift Tracy, yet I think that was what you were asking.... the "film that almost never was" imo becomes part of the legend... Zap goes back to get his camera...
it might not have even been taken - how lucky are we... bull-puckey..
A citizen in Dallas is asked by two shotgun toting policemen to hand over a piece of evidence... Zap says no, and everyone is just fine with that. Same with the Secret Service and the FBI. :what:
Zap wants to sell the film to the highest bidder so NO the US Gov't can't have the original... Luce might as well have been LBJ's Secretary of Disinformation between TIME and LIFE.
Sorrels, in the middle of developing this film, LEAVES. Cause he MUST get to Oswlad asap ??? Leaving not a single agent or officer at KODAK - he didn't think or know there was anything on the film worth anything...
or he knew it wouldn't matter.
Rowley has an 8mm film in his possession late Saturday night.
DeLoach claims to have seent he Zfilm early, early sunday morn...
This film disappears...
---
THE MAUSER:
In a case in which we find there were two of most everything in most every situation... we wonder why a 2nd rifle is described on the 6th floor.
Hoover and Elsworth both claim the rifle and shells were taken up from the 5th floor and left on the 6th AFTER the shooting.
Weitzman owned a Sporting Goods Store and knew rifles...
From the Alyea film we are see that Lt Day picked up this rifle "from its resting place" -
Alyea also tells us that FRITZ picked up the shells for the film and then threw them back on the ground...
Did FRTIZ take the Mauser? Is that other rifle a shotgun that just happens to be right next to the found murder weapon?
I did not find this scene in the Alyea I have... is this from the film or was this taken by Studebaker?
[ATTACH=CONFIG]5185[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH=CONFIG]5186[/ATTACH]
Senator COOPER - Did you notice whether the rifle that you discovered had a telescopic sight?
Mr. BOONE - Yes, it did.
Senator COOPER - Did it have a sling?
Mr. BOONE - Yes, it did. Because Captain Fritz picked it up by the sling when he removed it from its resting place.
Mr. BALL - There is one question. Did you hear anybody refer to this rifle as a Mauser that day?
Mr. BOONE - Yes, I did. And at first, not knowing what it was, I thought it was 7.65 Mauser.
Mr. BALL - Who referred to it as a Mauser that day?
Mr. BOONE - I believe Captain Fritz. He had knelt down there to look at it, and before he removed it, not knowing what it was, he said that is
what it looks like. This is when Lieutenant Day, I believe his name is, the ID man was getting ready to photograph it.
We were just discussing it beck and forth. And he said it looks like a 7.65 Mauser.
and now the LEAD GUY, HEAD HONCHO...
Mr. FRITZ. After the pictures had been made then I ejected a live shell, a live cartridge from the rifle.
Mr. BALL. And who did you give that to?
Mr. FRITZ. I believe that I kept that at that time myself. Later I gave it to the crime lab who, in turn, turned it over to the FBI.
Mr. BALL. Did you put any marking of yours on the empty cartridge?
Mr. FRITZ. On that loaded cartridge?
Mr. BALL. On that loaded cartridge.
Mr. FRITZ. I don't know, I am not sure, I don't think so.
Mr. BALL. Did you initial the rifle?
Mr. FRITZ. The rifle; no, sir.
Mr. BALL. You didn't. Who did you give the rifle to after you ejected this live cartridge?
Mr. FRITZ. I believe that that rifle, I didn't take the rifle with me, Lieutenant Day took that rifle, I believe, to the city hall, and later I asked him to bring it down--I don't believe I ever carried that rifle to city hall
Once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter