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Technical Hurdles Suggest Extensive Z-Film Alteration Highly Unlikely
Quote:See Brugioni saying, they could do anything at Hawkeye, to me that is not evidence. What is "anything"? But yet Horne hangs his hat on this in reply to all the technical arguments Zavada makes in his 30 page letter.

Then there is the first day quandary: About five people saw the film in Dallas. Would they not have said something if the film had been radically altered in some way?


Jim... your comments on Healy's Technical Aspects would be appreciated. Not so much the traveling matte concepts, but the "from movie A to Movie B" process... frame by frame.
Do you subscribe to the notion that DH is correct or not?

ANYTHING was not necessary... taking segments of a movie at 48fps and creating that same segment at 18.3 fps
THAT is not "anything"... that is a simple process of photographing the desired frames onto the new "original" movie.

In THAT process the frames can be enlarged to 35mm
In THAT process a plate or matte can be introduced to MATERIALLY CHANGE the appearance of the image on the frames - ie cover up a hole in JFK's head or add an injury not seen by anyone.

At the end we have 486 18.3fps frames with obvious signs of alteration...
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Now Jim... who are these 5 people (the number is actually closer to 25) - any "citizens" who have something to gain by telling a different story?

The main players were: Zapruder, Schwartz, McCormick, Chamberlain, Blair, and 10 or so more KODAK employees (some of which are named, some not - no chance of a KODAK employee in Dallas that day being connected to anything sinister, right?)
who see a 4x speed 16mm "master" shown once.

We also have Sorrels and the FBI (Sorrles to Kelly to Bookout to Barnett to Shanklin) who see "A" film (0186)

I'll ask again - who of this group would or could say anything in 1975 when the film is finally shown to the world?
Seems to me only the KODAK employees....

But not so... enter Erwin Schwartz's interview by Twyman... Horne p.1295
Erwin tells us that the film HE SAW ON 11/22 at KODAK in 16mm format at (2 to) 4x speed showed debris being ejected "back and to the left" of JFK.

p1296 we have Livingstone's interview with Breneman who supposedly sees the same thing in the frames given to him by LIFE with debris flying to the rear of the limo....
Would LIFE provide anyone with ACTUAL FRAMES from the orignal film on 11/25? IDK.

What does Chamberlain say?
http://www.jfk-info.com/zat1-11.pdf He recalls (in the late 70's) the top of JFK's head blown off... working the 16mm machine with the FBI Saturday morning... and never seening the Zfilm again.



Elmer Todd pressured Perry to recant his professional observations...

You feel confident that any one of these non-players would say anything in 1975? Where any of them called to the HSCA?, ARRB? (I don't think so, but I need to go look)

The filom was not "radically" altered if you had seen and remembered the shot that killed JFK - the most VIVID memory from the film - and seeing again 12+ years later we see a shot hitting JFK in the head...
It's very possible, if not probably that 0186 was sliced up for viewing that morning... that a limo stop or severe slowing, pause and take-off would simply not be noticed as you wait for that explosion to JFK's head...

No one has EVER asked the question, "did you see the limo stop" to these viewers... did Twyman? (not that Horne mentions - and one would think he would)

The names of those that DID say it stopped: p.1300-1 - DPD Courson(mid-motorcade), DPD Dale(mid-motorcade), Johnson(on overpass), DPD Brown(on overpass)
DPD Hargis, DPD Chaney, DPD Foster(overpass), Willis, Woodward, Smith(pergola), Truly(top of Elm), Lovelady(TSBD steps), Newman)on Elm feet from limo), Brehm(feet from limo)


This is no where near a complete list... yet these represent a variety of angles from which to see the limo... they're all dreaming?

No one asks whether they saw Chaney motor up immediately.
No one asks how far did they see Hill running...

We LIVE with this film burned into our brains... these people did not.... I'm doing my best to find reasons NOT to think this film was altered...

You have any other than what you posted?
Once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right.....
R. Hunter
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Technical Hurdles Suggest Extensive Z-Film Alteration Highly Unlikely - by David Josephs - 30-08-2013, 09:37 PM

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