18-09-2013, 02:23 PM
Charles Drago Wrote:Peter Lemkin Wrote:I love this sentence! Captures it all.....
Quote:"Our president's murder in broad daylight on a public street fifty years ago, and the new government's refusal to bring his killers to justice, meant nothing less the end of our long experiment in democracy. We now live not in a democracy but in what more accurately can be termed a limited police state, and that is the ultimate legacy of the Coup of 1963."
"The ultimate legacy?
A "limited police state"? [emphasis added]
I think not.
Ask, for instance, the survivors of My Lai what they see as the "ultimate legacy" of JFK's murder.
In my opinion, Peter, the sentence you bring to our attention -- in particular, the phrase which I highlight -- narrows rather than broadens our perspective on the event, implicitly values American lives over others, and is most kindly appreciated as shallow rather than deep political analysis.
I don't know what the author meant, and perhaps he'll enlighten us. I took it to mean we have entered police state 'territory' and are progressing rather fast further into it.....i.e. it is an ongoing deterioration of democratic structures and replacements by neo-fascist and totalitarian ones. Yes, individual actions, operations, wars and such have been total in their police state or fascist nature....vestigial remnants of a sick, but once barely functional republic are disappearing FAST...and in modern times were greatly accelerated on 11/22/63 and again on 9/11/01 [and several smaller accelerations between and since]. IMO. That I picked out that sentence doesn't mean I'm not aware [or the author, perhaps - don't know, haven't read the book yet] of the Deep Political Structures and Goals that were behind the 'scene', behind the 'hit', behind all we have seen and are seeing. I know what their 'end game' looks like and I don't like it one bit...it looks like neo-feudalism + neo-fascism with a high-tech touch a la 1984 + the 3rd Reich - only worse....and in America will come wrapped in the flag.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass