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The Splintering Frame
Stan Wilbourne Wrote:David, first, I am far from clear on this. If I understood it properly, if I had clarity, my consciousness would be in far different place. My consciousness is muddled, to be sure. But, from an early age, I always felt all of this is wrong. My mind pushes to understand this, but it is met with an ongoing struggle.

When you ask such a great question, I want to give an answer that comes from me. Not something I regurgitate from what I've read or learned from another.

Everything in thought is linked, attached to something else. Thought can never be new. It just can't. It can express the new, but in itself it is the past. Never a living thing. Always the shadow.

Yet this is where we live our lives. This is the place where suffering is born. This is our place of being. This cage is seldom even questioned. There is no way out using only the tool of thought. Thought keeps us spinning inside the circumference of the frame. Thought is the frame. The frame is thought.

That is the loop that is without end. The river of time. Our place of being. Total mind will never be touched with this tool because thought is dead and total mind is alive.

Along comes something truly revolutionary that states: "All of this is a dead end. All of it, wrong. True being, total being is completely different than where you live. There is a different life if you awaken. Total. Whole. Undivided."

That message is dropped/suggested to mind, and it begins to move in consciousness - which is what I believe to be currently taking place.

The opening in consciousness is no-thing. Not the concept of no-thing. But, the reality of it. We want to carry our personal psychology to other shore. It is impossible. The gateway to it is the destruction of self. The door is no-thing. That's a journey not many are willing to make. We may be very close to the point where our survival as a species depends on it. (Perhaps why the opening was created in the first place?)

The owners of the earth (dramatic license) are very much aware of this opening in consciousness and what it would be mean to mankind. Chaos is purposely created (the assassination of President Kennedy an example), thought pushed, manipulated and divided, layers of suffering created to anchor the frame and ensure its survival.

What happens to being without the frame? To put everything aside and ask that question may be most meaningful. I believe it to be a question the owners do not want asked. The answer could change all of this.

David Guyatt Wrote:
Stan Wilbourne Wrote:What is thought but the modified use of the past to confront the approaching now. It is limited in what it can do. And, it is forever linked to what has been. Loops. Finite loops without end. We are traveling in circles.

No matter how sharp thought is, no matter how expansive, it is anchored to what has been. Suffering anchors the frame into reality.

It is possible, I think, that Blavatsky came upon an opening in this loop and touched the total mind of man. Nazi Germany became aware of this discovery and moved to use it for their purposes. The framework of Germany was absorbed in the American corporate structure after the war, and the battle is on to control being.

Stan, I'd be interested if you could further explain what you mean when you say that Blavatsky and the Nazis also found an "opening in this loop", because I'm not sure what you mean when you say this? Are you referencing what has been called the Vril-ya force - also once called the aether by alchemists - by any chance? Or is it more simple than that, say the gateway into the collective unconscious?

Thanks Stan, for trying to take the time to answer my question.

It is often said that the psychology of the east and that of the west are different and don't actually meet. I was taught that Kipling's saying regarding this (the east is the east and the west is the west and never the twain shall meet) is to be adhered to, because of these psychological differences. The argument is that the east seeks perfection in oblivion - whereas the western mind seeks knowledge and understanding. Perhaps it's a case of the two hemispheres of the same world brain I shouldn't wonder?

To steal a quote from J M Barrie, the gateway to the collective unconscious is through that razor thin slither of space between sleeping and awake. And there are techniques and exercises that, if practised diligently and for long enough, will enable access to this Wonderland. In this case I've stolen my metaphor from Carroll, not Barrie because it is like going down the rabbit hole to reach Wonderland. Or if preferred we could use another metaphor from Star Wars and become Luke Starwalker entering the dark primordial forest in his hero's quest for himself through facing his own shadow.

Literature and art are strewn with these stories and references, I think, because this journey has been at the forefront of man's search for aions (poetically speaking anyway).

The odd thing about the exercises and techniques I mention, whether derived from the east or the west, is that they do appear to have the same distant lineage / heritage. And over the ages they have been wrapped in all sorts of religious mumbo-jumbo, eclipsed by jealous secrecy and, during very dark times discussed in devious and cunning detail (the middle ages alchemists) so the practitioner didn't get burned at the stake. They are also the first thing you are taught, and the very last thing you think worthy. Simplicity!
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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The Splintering Frame - by Stan Wilbourne - 02-07-2013, 05:04 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Charles Drago - 02-07-2013, 06:47 PM
The Splintering Frame - by David Josephs - 02-07-2013, 09:04 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Charles Drago - 02-07-2013, 09:49 PM
The Splintering Frame - by David Josephs - 02-07-2013, 11:14 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Tracy Riddle - 03-07-2013, 01:25 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 03-07-2013, 01:31 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Stan Wilbourne - 03-07-2013, 03:28 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 03-07-2013, 04:24 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Stan Wilbourne - 03-07-2013, 04:43 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Keith Millea - 04-07-2013, 04:28 PM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 04-07-2013, 06:21 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Keith Millea - 04-07-2013, 07:06 PM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 04-07-2013, 08:15 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Lauren Johnson - 04-07-2013, 09:08 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Jan Klimkowski - 04-07-2013, 10:01 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Lauren Johnson - 05-07-2013, 12:42 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Stan Wilbourne - 05-07-2013, 07:50 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Jan Klimkowski - 05-07-2013, 07:44 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 05-07-2013, 07:50 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Stan Wilbourne - 05-07-2013, 08:11 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Charles Drago - 05-07-2013, 09:26 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Stan Wilbourne - 05-07-2013, 09:53 PM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 06-07-2013, 08:01 AM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 06-07-2013, 08:15 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Magda Hassan - 06-07-2013, 08:38 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Stan Wilbourne - 06-07-2013, 11:07 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Charles Drago - 06-07-2013, 01:22 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Charles Drago - 06-07-2013, 03:00 PM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 06-07-2013, 03:56 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Stan Wilbourne - 06-07-2013, 06:52 PM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 06-07-2013, 08:50 PM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 06-07-2013, 09:26 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Keith Millea - 07-07-2013, 12:31 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Stan Wilbourne - 07-07-2013, 01:55 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Charles Drago - 07-07-2013, 03:20 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 07-07-2013, 06:41 AM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 07-07-2013, 07:30 AM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 07-07-2013, 07:30 AM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 07-07-2013, 07:47 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Michael Cross - 26-07-2013, 09:37 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Magda Hassan - 27-07-2013, 02:40 AM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 27-07-2013, 08:40 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 27-07-2013, 10:15 AM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 27-07-2013, 01:36 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 27-07-2013, 08:42 PM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 28-07-2013, 07:13 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 28-07-2013, 09:59 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Jim Hackett II - 28-07-2013, 10:37 AM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 28-07-2013, 10:45 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Dawn Meredith - 28-07-2013, 03:35 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Albert Rossi - 28-07-2013, 04:25 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Rob Caprio - 08-08-2013, 07:27 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Charles Drago - 08-08-2013, 07:31 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Rob Caprio - 08-08-2013, 07:45 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Jan Klimkowski - 08-08-2013, 07:53 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Charles Drago - 08-08-2013, 08:55 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Rob Caprio - 09-08-2013, 04:24 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Rob Caprio - 09-08-2013, 04:41 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Anthony Thorne - 09-08-2013, 05:28 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Jan Klimkowski - 09-08-2013, 11:50 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Charles Drago - 09-08-2013, 12:21 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Rob Caprio - 09-08-2013, 04:02 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Rob Caprio - 09-08-2013, 04:12 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Jan Klimkowski - 09-08-2013, 05:00 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Albert Doyle - 09-08-2013, 05:15 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Tracy Riddle - 09-08-2013, 05:54 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Rob Caprio - 09-08-2013, 06:22 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Jan Klimkowski - 09-08-2013, 06:30 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Rob Caprio - 09-08-2013, 06:55 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Tracy Riddle - 09-08-2013, 07:33 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Albert Rossi - 09-08-2013, 07:38 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 09-08-2013, 08:56 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Albert Rossi - 09-08-2013, 09:39 PM
The Splintering Frame - by David Josephs - 10-08-2013, 12:27 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Tracy Riddle - 10-08-2013, 02:08 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 10-08-2013, 10:18 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Stan Wilbourne - 10-08-2013, 05:32 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Charles Drago - 10-08-2013, 06:34 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Keith Millea - 10-08-2013, 07:12 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Stan Wilbourne - 10-08-2013, 08:28 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 10-08-2013, 09:06 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Stan Wilbourne - 11-08-2013, 12:06 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Magda Hassan - 11-08-2013, 01:59 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Magda Hassan - 11-08-2013, 02:19 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Charles Drago - 11-08-2013, 04:38 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 11-08-2013, 09:47 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Rob Caprio - 12-08-2013, 03:58 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Rob Caprio - 12-08-2013, 04:02 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Rob Caprio - 12-08-2013, 04:09 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Magda Hassan - 12-08-2013, 04:51 AM
The Splintering Frame - by David Healy - 12-08-2013, 04:54 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 12-08-2013, 09:20 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Jim Hackett II - 12-08-2013, 10:36 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Albert Doyle - 12-08-2013, 03:34 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Stan Wilbourne - 12-08-2013, 07:11 PM
The Splintering Frame - by David Josephs - 12-08-2013, 07:25 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Rob Caprio - 13-08-2013, 01:46 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Rob Caprio - 13-08-2013, 01:53 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Charles Drago - 13-08-2013, 02:46 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Jan Klimkowski - 13-08-2013, 05:09 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Rob Caprio - 14-08-2013, 02:52 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Rob Caprio - 14-08-2013, 03:01 AM
The Splintering Frame - by R.K. Locke - 05-09-2013, 10:58 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Jan Klimkowski - 07-09-2013, 12:22 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 07-09-2013, 08:53 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Jan Klimkowski - 07-09-2013, 09:24 PM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 17-09-2013, 08:18 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 17-09-2013, 10:14 AM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 17-09-2013, 11:46 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Stan Wilbourne - 17-09-2013, 04:33 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Jan Klimkowski - 17-09-2013, 07:08 PM
The Splintering Frame - by R.K. Locke - 17-09-2013, 07:56 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 17-09-2013, 11:59 PM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 18-09-2013, 09:30 AM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 18-09-2013, 12:56 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Keith Millea - 18-09-2013, 06:03 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 18-09-2013, 09:30 PM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 19-09-2013, 08:51 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 19-09-2013, 10:12 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Jim Hackett II - 19-09-2013, 11:01 AM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 19-09-2013, 11:27 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Stan Wilbourne - 19-09-2013, 06:52 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 20-09-2013, 01:51 AM
The Splintering Frame - by David Guyatt - 20-09-2013, 08:37 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Charles Drago - 20-09-2013, 12:10 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Stan Wilbourne - 21-09-2013, 02:27 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Magda Hassan - 21-09-2013, 02:40 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Keith Millea - 21-09-2013, 07:02 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Peter Lemkin - 21-09-2013, 07:52 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Stan Wilbourne - 21-09-2013, 09:06 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 21-09-2013, 09:20 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Jim Hackett II - 22-09-2013, 12:24 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Peter Lemkin - 22-09-2013, 08:23 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Charles Drago - 22-09-2013, 12:54 PM
The Splintering Frame - by C. Savastano - 24-09-2013, 06:33 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Jim Hackett II - 24-09-2013, 10:51 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Jim Hackett II - 24-09-2013, 11:42 AM
The Splintering Frame - by Phil Dragoo - 24-09-2013, 12:02 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Jim Hackett II - 24-09-2013, 12:18 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Keith Millea - 24-09-2013, 07:16 PM
The Splintering Frame - by Lauren Johnson - 06-02-2014, 01:05 AM

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