28-09-2013, 12:36 PM
Jeffrey Orling Wrote:Yeah, yeah, I know. I just have a visceral reaction to the Randi name. Funny, you are the second person to refer me to Galileo today. The other person being Greg Burnham. Who I could swear was channeling the voice of Charles. But I may be wrong. Just funny to see you on the same side of something.Magda Hassan Wrote:The trouble with this is it is from the Randi forum which is hardly a source of good verification. Un-named sources spouting shit. Is there nothing more substantial from an academic source? Or more trustworthy than the Randi forum? Something that you can use to refute Tony's hypothesis?
Magda,
You are refusing to accept well reasoned arguments because they are not published? Or associated with an academic institution? This is little more than hiding behind an appeal to authority argument. LOOK AT THE MERITS OF THE ARGUMENTS, not who makes them.
If you know the history of science, you know that the accepted truth was continually overturned by some outsider such as Galileo. And of course his ideas were rejected by the establishment at the time.
Anyway, I appreciate all the information that both you and Tony are posting. I am still quite agnostic on the collapse but I am finding it worthwhile personally.
911 not being my area so I often think of the minutiae of collapse/no collapse discourse along the lines of how many angels can fit on the head of a pin. I find it odd that there appears not to be (or people would be using it I assume?) a whole lot of research not of the NIST variety and not of the James Randi school of cult management and not of the open slather 911 forums. Just looking for independent university proffs without corporate/government ties but with an interest in what happened that day as it relates to their engineering/architectual/metalurgical/health and safety professional interests. Neither Tony nor yourself seem to be able to provide them.
Jeffrey Orling Wrote:This towers has many energized transformers... and 7 sat above one of the most massive power sub stations in NYC and had 30,000 gallons of diesel fuel on premises (thank to Guiliani).Another interesting area. Thanks for the links.
Con Ed Transformer Explosion Hurricane Sandy - New York City - YouTube
Electricity has such amazing power - Compliation - YouTube
Transformer Explodes - YouTube
Transformer Explosion Hurricane Sandy, Cliffside Park NJ - YouTube
Transformer fire and explosion cause blue flames - YouTube
Hurricane Sandy: Transformer explodes in Westchester NY - YouTube
Could the official explanations be avoiding discussion of something else?
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx
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“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.
“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.