31-12-2013, 02:00 PM
David Josephs Wrote:I gather you feel the same way about Norman/Jarman/Williams who, knowing a shot was fired from just 10 feet from their heads, decide not only NOT to yell out the windows where they are sitting - not one of them - but to sit there as 2 more shots are fired, supposedly - and then run to the WEST END of the 5th floor.
How about any number of witnesses who both assumed a shot from the TSBD and neither say anything about it WHILE running back into the building....?
What it appears you are doing is PROVING the shots could not have come from the TSBD... is THAT the point Don? If it is, I'm right with you..
David,
yes indeed, those three stooges on the fifth give me personally more than enough to believe not one single unsuppressed shot came from those windows above them.
It would seem you view them in a similar fashion so what then the difference between those three and Reid?
You believe she(let's be specific) looked above her to see if she could see where the shots were coming from within seconds. I don't.
Why not?
Because this fantasic footage suggests to me that not one single person instinctively knew shots came from above their heads.
Yes the testimony does, in spades but we've already been given a thoroughly reasonable explaination for this phenomenon, twice in this thread.
This is life, people lie, if I've condemned Reid I've condemned the whole of mankind, she did nothing that bad, I'm just simply saying we don't all have to believe everything she said.
Reid isn't being singled out by me, pick another witness pointing to the upper floors in those first minutes and I'll explain why I believe it had nothing to do with what they heard.
IMHO every single reaction you see in both films is in response to a visual clue, at street level.
There's one exception but I'm not seeing individuals reacting to a shooting.
I say this end of Elm was clueless.
Shots came from this end sure, Daltex, Records and/or TSBD I've never claimed to know exactly where, I like the former but wherever they came from, I'm content atm with this impression that no one could pin-point 'em without a hint and that indeed is a thing we've heard on occasion in the past. The echo chamber that was DP.
Even Bowers, resident in that RRY for six years, told us he couldn't always tell which end of Elm a sound came from.

