Sean Murphy's research deserves more

[Albert Doyle]

yes, the indeed are about 90[SUP]0[/SUP] off axis, which is why they are so valuable. They can be thought of as setting up an xy grid. The negative end of the y-axis points of the scree toward the viewer, and let's say it pass right through PM. The Altgen 6 photo is looking nearly right down the x-axis with the negative end passing through AFM and the positive end passing through BL. From looking at these two photos, one can roughly locate PM on this grid.

Which is exactly why Prayer Man would not be blocking Lovelady in Altgens. That triangulation you cite would definitely put him back into the shadows obscured by the pillar facade. y=3' does that. If you are going to do that however you absolutely have to mention that the figures in question might not be in the same places from picture to picture.

But you have to use BOTH. Looking along the x-axis (Altgen 6), it is clear BL does not break that plane. He is behind both AFM and BL. Looking along the y-axis (Weigman), it is clear that he is to the right of BL and to the left of AFM. His values on this imaginary grid and this my guess: y=3' and x=0.

I think you are saying Prayer Man is 3 feet past the origin of the x/y axis. I think you also meant PM when you said BL.

Why is this significant? Anything along the AFM/BL plane is in the sun. Any person along that plane would be very visible. PM is not visible. To me, I see him as leaning against the corner of the entry.

But we were never really talking about Prayer Man being visible in the sense of African American Man and Lovelady. You keep mentioning that but it's something I never said. You can't say where Prayer Man is in Altgens since you can't see him.

Having said all this, I am reasonably certain you and I will never agree. Just won't happen. If anyone can settle this, that would help.

So, once again, why does this matter to you? You have accused some people of trying to place Oswald in the entry way. Why is this important to you?

Because I think they are missing/ignoring some important evidence as my posts should have already made clear.


I don't think my shade plane argument has been answered. If you establish the sun shadow shade plane across the west side of the portal I think it will prove Prayer Man has the back of his hand or knuckles and fingers in faint light in Wiegman. If you do anatomical measurements you will see Prayer Man's body can only be so far back from his lit hand according to his posture. Analyze Lovelady's position along that plane and I think you can geometrically prove he's slightly further back than Prayer Man in the portal. Do you understand that Lovelady can be in the sun and still be further back into the portal than Prayer Man according to the given factors?