04-03-2014, 02:21 AM
Albert Doyle Wrote:The testimony that made it to the Commission said Carolyn left at 12:15 with a group headed to the front to see the motorcade.
Golz says Mrs Arnold said 12:25 and that her alleged sighting of Oswald on the 1st floor was something she didn't say. So since we have evidence of falsification is it more or less likely that the 12:15 was also fabricated? Mrs Arnold was not invited to the Warren Commission hearings. It seems to me that anything other than the established 12:25 in the 2nd floor lunchroom, as per Mrs Arnold, would be using the Warren Report as reference.
Oh, by the way Bob, why didn't you answer this?:
Quote:As I said before and you ignored, if you went to the witness template for other Oswald sightings you would see a strong showing of speaking up from Ralph Yates to Carolyn Arnold, to Bogard, to Roger Craig, to Carousel witnesses seeing Oswald in the shadows, and all the other known Oswald sightings I'm sure you're familiar with. There is no such outward, direct case like Oswald standing right in front of everybody on the Depository front steps, with all the dozens of witnesses who would have seen him right in front of them, without any mention at all. You will find no other exposure of Oswald in the assassination with such a 100% consistency of lack of witnessing. What you are doing is trying to place Lee Harvey Oswald in the Assassination's Times Square at high noon without anyone seeing him. Again, to me this is an obvious common sense issue. I think you are trying to suggest silence by intimidation but it just doesn't play against that overall template. Your scenario still requires Oswald to mingle in with the crowd in the doorway where their attention would be on each other at the Baker juncture. It just doesn't wash Bob.
The main problem with Golz's claims re: Carolyn Arnold is that he never got signed statements nor, as Mark Lane so efficiently did with the people he interviewed, did he record his interview with Arnold (later Johnston) on film. Over the years, I have grown suspicious of singular unfounded claims such as this; both from the LN and CT camps.
The second problem is, WHY would the FBI falsify her interview to potentially place Oswald on the 1st floor, and not the 2nd floor? Not only would this cast doubt on the testimony of Truly and Baker regarding the 2nd floor encounter with Oswald, it would place Oswald one floor further away from the Sniper's Nest AND tend to corroborate any other evidence placing Oswald in the "Domino Room" on the 1st floor.
I am quite sincere about this. I would like to hear one good reason for the FBI to change Arnold's sighting from the 2nd floor to the 1st floor.
About your other question; we need go no further than Buell Wesley Frazier for the answer. He is clearly seen facing Prayer Man, yet does not ID him as Oswald. Worse, he does not ID him at all, or even recall seeing him. Can you explain that, without using the word "intimidation"?
Mr. HILL. The right rear portion of his head was missing. It was lying in the rear seat of the car. His brain was exposed. There was blood and bits of brain all over the entire rear portion of the car. Mrs. Kennedy was completely covered with blood. There was so much blood you could not tell if there had been any other wound or not, except for the one large gaping wound in the right rear portion of the head.
Warren Commission testimony of Secret Service Agent Clinton J. Hill, 1964
Warren Commission testimony of Secret Service Agent Clinton J. Hill, 1964