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Mathematical Challenge re: CE 399
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Marc Ellis Wrote:
Bob Prudhomme Wrote:This is ground breaking material, and I'm embarrassed I didn't see this years ago....
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"....I'm not sure how many of you understand the implications here. If the 6th floor rifle was shooting cartridges loaded with bullets .264" in diameter, instead of the necessary bullets .268" in diameter, there is no way the rifle would have been shooting accurately enough for even an expert marksman to have been able to have hit JFK.

Most of it's over my head. But I get that part in bold. CE399 was the wrong diameter to be accurately fired from the alleged assassination rifle. And that truly appears to be 'ground-breaking material'.

Hi Marc
Thanks for taking an interest in this matter. The greatest thing about this is it is not just me saying the bullet is too small in diameter, we have FBI SA Robert Frazier testifying to the WC that the bullet is too small.

"Mr. EISENBERG - You gave the weight of the bullet which is found in this type of cartridge. Could you give us a description of the contour of the bullet, and its length?
Mr. FRAZIER - The bullet has parallel sides, with a round nose, is fully jacketed with a copper-alloy coating or metal jacket on the outside of a lead core. Its diameter is 6.65 millimeters. The length--possibly it would be better to put it in inches rather than millimeters The diameter is .267 inches, and a length of 1.185, or approximately 1.2 inches"

Frazier is completely out to lunch here. He has obviously read, from Italian military specs, that a Carcano bullet should be .267" in diameter (.2677" actually). However, the 6.5mm Carcano cartridges made by the Western Cartridge Co. were loaded with the far more common bullet for other 6.5mm rifles and they measured only .264" in diameter. Frazier, without doing the Metric conversion, automatically assumed that 6.65 mm = .267". Of course, it does not.

6.65 mm = .261811 or .262"

I can only assume that Frazier was no better at measuring bullets than he was at doing math, as there has only ever been one rifle cartridge (an experimental one at that) ever loaded with a bullet 6.65 mm in diameter; the 6.45x48mm XPL Swiss. Now, if we allow Frazier a .5 mm mistake in measuring, and say the bullet is 6.7 mm in diameter, we end up with a more likely scenario.

6.7 mm = .263779 or .264"

The diameter of .264" is the standard bullet diameter of every 6.5mm rifle in the world, except the 6.5mm Carcano.
Mr. HILL. The right rear portion of his head was missing. It was lying in the rear seat of the car. His brain was exposed. There was blood and bits of brain all over the entire rear portion of the car. Mrs. Kennedy was completely covered with blood. There was so much blood you could not tell if there had been any other wound or not, except for the one large gaping wound in the right rear portion of the head.

Warren Commission testimony of Secret Service Agent Clinton J. Hill, 1964
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Mathematical Challenge re: CE 399 - by Marc Ellis - 10-03-2014, 06:39 AM
Mathematical Challenge re: CE 399 - by Bob Prudhomme - 10-03-2014, 01:23 PM
Mathematical Challenge re: CE 399 - by Marc Ellis - 11-03-2014, 08:08 AM

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