19-03-2014, 05:49 AM
David Josephs Wrote:Greg R Parker Wrote:David,
I assume any detailed discussion is going to go into minutia at some stage. I'd just like to know the difference between "going into minute details" (that is being "detailed"), "minutia" and "false minutia". If you could provide an example of what you specifically refer to as "detailed" and what defines "minutia" as opposed to "false minutia", that'd be great.
Thanks. Once I have your definitions down pat, I have a starting point for discussion.
Sorry Greg, but I had truly not given the subject of definitional minutia that much thought....
David, this is what you wrote in this thread last October.
After all these years of research and analysis... I clearly see that SPONSORS and the JFK assassination have very little to do with one another...
That realization minimizes virtually all the work I've done this last decade or so... to a study of false minutia, leading to more false minutia.
Are you really claiming you can't recall what you meant by "false minutia"? And that you can't tell me the difference between "detailed discussion" and any kind of minutia (whether false or otherwise)? If you can't recall what you said and meant in October last year on a subject you say you've researched the hell out of, how can you possibly rely upon witnesses to accurately recall people and events from years earlier?
Why not just start your attempts to discredit the work using the same unsigned FBI documents as you did last time... and see where it takes you?
You remember all those FBI interview reports on his BJHS classmates where each was asked about the 54-55 school year and none about 53-54... and each report was a cookie cutter of the last with only the name of the person changed...
I don't have to "attempt" it, David. I've done it. Your fierce determination to close your senses to that fact, doesn't change that fact.
And your insistence on claiming that all I have ever referred to is FBI reports is noted. So I'll remind you again. I have used contemporary news accounts, passport and ship records, among a variety of source materials in my investigation of "Harvey and Lee" claims. That your insistence that the FBI could alter a report meansthat they did alter numerous reports is noted. Your reliance on the "memory" of very carefully selected witnesses is noted. As is your complete lack of concern that Armstrong only had to interview those same witnesses, show them the FBI reports and ask a simple question , "is this what you told the FBI"? Instead, he avoided like the plague anyone who might not say what he needed.
Better yet... Let's talk about Allen Felde and how his memory of Oswald in CE1962 which does not match the one offered by the military - CE1961.
http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc..._0415a.htm
What do you want to discuss? If you are not aware he is referring to the same place that is referred to in CE1961, I can't help you. Moreover, what sort of knuckle-headed conspirators would put two conflicting reports side by side like that? The only thing wrong with the Felde FBI document (which shows you are happy to use FBI docs when you think they help you) is that it refers to "WCRD" instead of "MCRD" - Marine Corp Recruitment Depot. Could no one in the H & L brains trust work that out? The only other issue is he is out in his approximate dates. But then, that is what research into memory shows is likely to happen with most people. I'd have trouble getting the year right, let alone the month.
Or the fact that MACS-9 / MCAF in Santa Anna where Henry Roussell Jr served with HARVEY is not the same as the base down the road El Toro where LEE and Allen Graf served in MAG-3, where a Major Gorsky was the Asst Provo Marshall who tells us that LEE was discharged from the El Toro base in March 1959.
Sorry David, but the very document you point to, specifically states it is the same place.
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=1139&relPageId=828
4th Replacement Battalion .... yadda yadda yadda ... El Toro (Santa Ana) California.
I look forward to you addressing this as well.
Well, I have. Now if would finally address all these without attempts to change the subject?
http://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t702-harvey-lee-the-early-years
http://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t688-jacobi-hospital
http://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t226-armstrong-s-magic-tonsillectomy-vanishing-scars
http://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t435-why-palmer-mcbride-was-wrong
http://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t349-what-odom-and-shasteen-discussed
http://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t87-the-mrs-jack-d-tippit-phone-call
http://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t287-edwin-ekdahl-s-height
http://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t227-armstrong-s-magic-tooth-and-the-facts-about-harvey-at-beauregard
(Note: Please take the time to familiarize yourself with some of the newer thought on this... Since our last discussion I've spent a lot of time digging deeper... Some of the conclusions in H&L have indeed needed to be revised and updated, just as Horne updated Lifton's work as well as his exposing the NPIC Zfilm charade... time and knowledge marches on as layer after layer of the onion gets peeled back)
Have done! I'm impressed that you now believe the likes of Good Ol' Myra were coached. Nothing else explains how this was done on paper and in retrospect only when you have witnesses to "Harvey" all over the place.
Good to hear from you again.
DJ
Well, I haven't been hiding under a bushel!
John discovered:
12/20/58
NOTE: The Commission failed to ask Delgado how he and Oswald's friendship, which took several weeks to develop, and their discussions about Castro and Cuba, which continued for several weeks, could have taken place "before Christmas. " These discussions took place during the time that Oswald bunked with Mack Osborne, Neil Dennis Tessem, Henry Roussel, Robert Allen, and Paul Hickey and occurred before he moved into Delgado's hut, #34. Once again, the Commission ignored these troublesome witnesses, who were with Harvey Oswald, from October thru December, while Lee Oswald was still in Japan. They relied on Marine Corps records which reported that (Lee) Oswald arrived at El Toro on December 22, but apparently never realized that El Toro ( MCAS) and Santa Ana (MCAF-MACS 9) were two very different installations.
March 1959
Henry Roussell, Jr. served with Harvey Oswald for 3 or 4 months in MACS 9 at Santa Ana (MACS 9) and was one of six Marines who shared a Quonset hut with him in 1958 (while Lee Oswald was still in Japan). His Aunt tells of how HARVEY speaks Russian VERY WELL
I await your rebuttals.