02-04-2014, 05:33 AM
Charlie Prima Wrote:It's so sad that you either don't know the difference between Science and Science Fraud, or know it's fraudulent and promote the lies and half-truths for some other purpose.
You're simply posting to nay-say, without any evidence. I got my degrees and training at what is rated as the second or third best university in the US, precisely on the relevant subjects involved [including a minor in clinical psychology - so I know the mechanisms of denial in detail]. I know it is somewhat popular for some in the 'research' orbit on JFK to be Anthropogenic Climate Change deniers. Look who you are in bed with and who is funding the few [3-5%] of scientists speaking against the consensus. The Koch Bros. are the biggest funders of those Climate Change denial scientists, followed by right-wing 'endowments' that fund pro-war; pro-oligarchy; pro-corporatism; anti-democratic ideas and activities. This is an exact parallel to what was done funding pro-cigarette voodoo science by the Tobacco lobby. The science is undeniable and firmly established in the scientific literature at this point, and has been since the 1950s when Rachael Carson wrote The Silent Spring. Many laughed at her then...but few are now. In that short time period, the situation of Environmental destruction and climate change has exponentially increased with the increase in technology and population growth of humans. The Native Americans noted back about 500 years ago that the European invaders besides being genocidal and filed with hate, were out of balance with and estranged from Nature - and correctly predicted they would destroy themselves due to these attitudes. One of many wise Native Americans was Chief Seattle. I would suggest you consider his words.
Chief Seattle > Quotes
Chief Seattle quotes:
"The earth does not belong to us. We belong to the earth."
― Chief Seattle, The Chief Seattle's Speech
"Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect."
― Chief Seattle
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"We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children"
"The earth does not belong to man, man belongs to the earth. All things are connected like the blood that unites us all. Man did not weave the web of life, he is merely a strand in it. Whatever he does to the web, he does to himself."
― Chief Seattle
"The earth is our mother. Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons and daughters of the earth. This we know. All things are connected like the blood which unites one family. All things are connected.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons and daughters of the earth. We did not weave the web of life, we are merely strands in it. Whatever we do to the web we do to ourselves."
― Chief Seattle
"Continue to contaminate your bed and you will one night suffocate in your own waste. When the buffalo are all slaughtered, the wild horses all tamed, the secret corners of the forest heavy with the scent of many men, and the view of the ripe hills blotted by talking wires. Where is the thicket? Gone. Where is the eagle? Gone. And what is to say good-bye to the swift and the hunt; the end of living and the beginning of survival."
― Chief Seattle
"If all the beasts were gone,
men would die
from a great loneliness of spirit,
for whatever happens to the beasts
also happens to the man.
All things are connected.
Whatever befalls the Earth
befalls the sons of the Earth."
― Chief Seattle
"Man did not weave the web of life, he is merely a strand in it. Whatever he does to the web, he does to himself. "
― Chief Seattle
"All things share the same breath - the beast, the tree, the man. The air shares its spirit with all the life it supports."
― Chief Seattle
"When the green hills are covered with talking wires and the wolves no longer sing, what good will the money you paid for our land be then"
― Chief Seattle
"Earth does not belong to us; we belong to earth.
Take only memories, leave nothing but footprints."
― Chief Seattle
"When the Earth is sick, the animals will begin to disappear, when that happens, The Warriors of the Rainbow will come to save them."
― Chief Seattle
"All things are connected.
Whatever befalls the earth
Befalls the sons of the earth.
Man did not weave the web of life,
He is merely a strand in it.
Whatever he does to the web,
He does to himself."
― Chief Seattle
"Tribe follows tribe, and
nation follows nation, like the waves of the sea. It is the order of
nature, and regret is useless. Your time of decay may be distant, but
it will surely come, for even the White Man ... cannot be exempt from the common destiny."
― Chief Seattle, The Chief Seattle's Speech
"Like a man who has been dying for many days, a man in your city is numb to the stench."
― Chief Seattle
"There is no death. . . Only a change of worlds."
― Chief Seattle
"This We Know. All Things Are Connected"
― Chief Seattle
"The earth is our mother. Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of earth. If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves."
― Chief Seattle
"The Earth does not belong to man; Man belongs to the Earth. This we know. All things are connected like the blood which unites one family. Whatever befalls the Earth befalls the sons of the Earth. Man did not weave the web of life, he is merely a strand in it. Whatever he does to the web, he does to himself."
― Chief Seattle
Native Peoples worldwide have throughout time and even today are much more in contact with environmental realities and environmental justice/ethics than the out-of-touch city-dwellers and befoulers of their own bed 'civilized' humans can ever be. I suggest you read Derrick Jensen threads on this Forum - of the need to dismantle much of what passes for 'civilization' if we and other species are to survive
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass