Discrediting Secret Service complicity in the elimination of JFK…

[Peter Lemkin]

Actually, CD, it was me, not Peter, who insisted the assassinations were carried out in plain site - a point with which you clearly agree.

You declare the obvious with an air of discovery. The deaths occured in plain sight; the instruments of those deaths were not readily visible.

Greer benefited from the fact the assassination site was at the end of the parade, at a relatively unpopulated site. He was further shield by the terrain, and the other vehicles in the motorcade. RFK's killer, by contrast, boasted the "sophisticated camouflage" of the victim's body; and was inevitably, like Greer, also seen shooting.

"Shielded"??? Greer was in full view of any number of bystanders and photographers during the shooting sequence.

Are we both talking about the events in Dealey Plaza, Dallas, Texas, at 12:30 PM on November 22, 1963? I know that I am.

As for RFK's killer: Please identify this person. It was not SBS. It was not Thane Eugene Cesar.

Now if you were more familiar with the fuller exposition of the Elm St shooting scenario which centers on Greer, you'd know that it, too, posits (a) decoy shot(s), only this time from the rear[.]

I'm quite familiar with the likely shooting scenario -- and now, thanks to you, with another fantasy version to join those of the WC and HSCA.

Of course at least one decoy shot was fired -- a fact which has zero probative value in terms of your hypothesis.

Altgens' photograph, which was taken about three seconds after the decoy shot was fired, when enlarged (Fig. 3-4) shows Secret Service agent Warren W. Taylor, in the rear left seat, of the Vice-President's follow-up car. His arm is outside of the open car door; the configuration of his hand suggests he is holding a gun. Those people in the car immediately behind smelled gunpowder.

Again, zero probative value for your case. And I have no problem whatsoever with the suggestion that Taylor was a co-conspirator.

See Evica's "Terrible Sound" essay for a truly rational and deep political analysis of the "firecracker," its origins and functions.

Yes, CD got my point, but I think you failed to get it. While the executions were public the real shooters, the real means, the real magic tricks were done with deception and misdirection. Almost everyone in DP was looking at JFKs limo. RFK was shot in the kitchen where it was crowded and confused and few had their attention on him. Etc. While it is not impossible to imagine a scenario of the driver doing it, I find NO evidence this happened and it being the most dangerous of possible plans. By the way there is a book that posits a shot from the trunk, with the assassin in it....but both are IMO diversions from the real tricks that day.