29-05-2014, 03:19 PM
I'm afraid that in the last 24 hours the much dreaded, but anticipated 'civil war' has begun...if now at a small level and still 'encapsulated' in one city in the East. 35-40 pro-Russian forces [seemingly some local 'irregular', some Chechen highly trained fighters] were killed when the Ukrainian Military took back the airport [second largest in Ukraine] at Donetsk. Now, someone in the pro-Russian forces shot down a helicopter transporting more troops of the Ukrainian Army - all 14 died, using a surface to air missile [not things irregulars would have and proof that Russia is involved!]. More Chechen troops were seen moving toward the airport....so more blood will soon be spilled. I blame BOTH sides and both US/NATO & Russia for playing a cynical and dangerous game here. Negotiations are the only way forward, but I'm rather afraid fighting will be how this plays out. Ukraine needs to become a 'southern Finland' - pledged to NOT join NATO, but be a 'neutral' political state or states between Russia and the 'West' - for now. Russia has good reason to fear NATO facilities being set up in Ukraine; Ukraine has good reason to fear a Russian invasion - overtly or covertly. What a mess. There are MANY Ukrainians here where I live and most all are very worried about what will happen to their country, cities, families, friends - no matter which side they favor. I've seen demonstrations supporting both sides, but that fear is a common factor they both share.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass