01-06-2014, 09:10 AM
Where-Wolf said...
@New Insight
I have listened to the first 30 minutes of the 2 hour video you've posted. My gut instinct tells me that Evgeny Fedorov is working to undermine Russia and Putin. I stopped watching after he mentioned fifth column for roughly the 30th time. He seems very intent on focussing the energy of Russians on internal enemies and playing up fears.
Wikipedia has a detailed entry on him. I am curious to know how many members of the Duma (and United Russia) are so well covered. Of course I do not know if he has a high profile in Russia or not.
He is also a banker and he's been circling around since the mid 1990's. This from his wiki:
In 1996 he was appointed deputy head of the Insurance Supervision Department of the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation in 1997 - for the post of Deputy Head of the Security Council of Russia. In the 1990s, he initiated the creation of a number of social movements, including the all-Russian political public movement "in support of the development of nuclear energy, industry and science", Russian public movement of depositors of Sberbank, policyholders Rosgosstrakh and the owners of the securities.
Yevgeny Alexeyevich Fyodorov
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yevgeny_Ale...h_Fyodorov
In order to make a putch against Putin possible, Russians have to be made to believe it is possible. Although I have no doubt the US would like to tear Russia apart, his warnings seems designed to create rather than undermine the possibility.
That's my opinion on the basis of the limited information I've seen.
United Russia is a party of power more than one of ideology or even Putin. I wouldn't trust this guy any farther than I could throw him. He is a neo-liberal and professional politician/parasite, again, in my opinion and based on limited information.
01 June, 2014 02:21
Where-Wolf said...
E posted the translation of an article posted earlier by Saker on the previous thread. I note the similarity between E's introductory thought -- that Russians must beware of internal enemies -- to the sentiment expressed by Evgeny Fedorov in the video posted by New Insight, and seconded by Daniel Rich. Here's his introductory comment:
The level of analytical discussion in the RuNet was excellently described by political commentator Semyon Uralov: "It is fundamentally wrong to think that only our Kievan colleagues have lost their minds and turned into bloodthirsty hysterics due to the Ukrainian crisis. There is an incredible amount of such people among our Moscow colleagues as well."
It is possible that some within Russia are turning their attention to internal enemies but it is also possible that attempts to encourage this are being made by the Anglo-Zionists from without.
It's a bit like casting a magic spell over your opponent. You must encourage him to believe in the reality of the threat to make it real.
Both this article and Federov push the idea that Putin must act now -- bad advice given how well things are going for Russia in geo-strategic terms (although not for Novorossians). Anglo-Zionists fortunes are crumbling. Now would be the worst possible time for Putin to make an aggressive move.
01 June, 2014 03:09
Anonymous said...
Wherewolf -- yes I immediately noticed when I 'looked him up' the irony of Fedorov's background in finance and even the Rosnano org prominently mentioned on his Wikipedia page (but then again Wikipedia is used to put out disinfo). I had assumed from his hard line that he was pure silovik.
Rosnano for those who don't know is Russia's state-funded nanontechnology effort with close ties to Israel's nano establishment (just throwing that out there). Its board like Skolkovo has included Anatoly Chubais, the former Yeltsin advisor, 'liberalizer' of the Russian economy in the 1990s, and a globalist operative if there ever was one in Moscow. Chubais is on the board of Skoltech and if the rumor about him having an Israeli passport is true (we shall find out soon enough with this new law passed in the Duma on reporting foreign passports or facing harsh fines/penalties) then that would make at least two Israeli passport holders on the Skoltech board. Naturally there is a lot of overlap between the Skolkovo and Rosnano 'tusovkas'.
Of course many people connected with these orgs are sincere Russian liberals who were closely part of Medvedev's 'modernization' and 'diversification from oil and gas' efforts, and I don't think Medvedev was a Western agent. He was simply naive and too trusting of the West in Libya and this contributed to the shock among Moscow liberals over Putin's adrupt return, though VVP may have planned to come back all along. Many of the technology and finance oriented 'White Russians' who helped with the Reset and Medvedev's visit to Silicon Valley along with then Gov. Schwarzenegger's trip to Moscow are Stolypinists.
http://en.rusnano.com/about/management/chubais
Again, I think Fedorov is throwing out the charge of '5th Column' too freely -- sort of a Russian McCarthy if you will. Not every prominent Russian who has to 'do business' with the West and invariably deal with CIA plants or probes lacks patriotism. And Evgeny A. Fedorov says NTV and First Channel are answering to the McFaul and Nuland's State Dept., really?
I don't doubt CIA is aggressively seeking to recruit Russian bureaucrats and business people with family and ties abroad all the time, that's their job. But I suspect most of what the Agency gets from these sources who never entirely bite on the bait being dangled with the hook is deliberate Russian disinfo. I'm also convinced that at least some NSA fanatics here in the U.S. have some grudge against the CIA or suspect the 'limited hangout' or 'CIA plant' theories about Snowden /Greenwald/Omidyar advanced by Dr. Steve Pieczenik and Sibel Edmonds actually could be true.
http://pieczenik.blogspot.com/2014/02/ed...lower.html
If Dr. Pieczenik's 'limited hangout' theory is true, and Snowden really is the messenger for John Brennan's CIA knocking its old IC rival down a peg or two, then Putin is doing CIA a favor by keeping Snowden safe and sound where only somewhat sympathetic journalists can reach him. Snowden will never set foot in the U.S. again because then the 'he's a traitor, hang him, he only escaped with 1.7 mil docs because of SVR/GRU/FSB support via Wikileaks' Narrative will start to break down under such simple questions such as how the CIA couldn't bother to muster a single team to stake out the Hong Kong airport and await his arrival (not saying the ChiComs couldn't have beaten the Agency with countersurveillance of their own and gotten Snowden on an Aeroflot flight where Aeroflot was instructed to accept his dubious Ecuadorian/Assange made transit visa, only that the Agency either was incompetent as usual or deliberately let Snowden board that flight to Moscow, hence the NSA grudge vs CIA you see repeated by the NSA's leading social media kingpin, John R. Schindler of the US Naval War College:
http://www.intrepidreport.com/archives/11389
American Kulak
01 June, 2014 03:09
@New Insight
I have listened to the first 30 minutes of the 2 hour video you've posted. My gut instinct tells me that Evgeny Fedorov is working to undermine Russia and Putin. I stopped watching after he mentioned fifth column for roughly the 30th time. He seems very intent on focussing the energy of Russians on internal enemies and playing up fears.
Wikipedia has a detailed entry on him. I am curious to know how many members of the Duma (and United Russia) are so well covered. Of course I do not know if he has a high profile in Russia or not.
He is also a banker and he's been circling around since the mid 1990's. This from his wiki:
In 1996 he was appointed deputy head of the Insurance Supervision Department of the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation in 1997 - for the post of Deputy Head of the Security Council of Russia. In the 1990s, he initiated the creation of a number of social movements, including the all-Russian political public movement "in support of the development of nuclear energy, industry and science", Russian public movement of depositors of Sberbank, policyholders Rosgosstrakh and the owners of the securities.
Yevgeny Alexeyevich Fyodorov
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yevgeny_Ale...h_Fyodorov
In order to make a putch against Putin possible, Russians have to be made to believe it is possible. Although I have no doubt the US would like to tear Russia apart, his warnings seems designed to create rather than undermine the possibility.
That's my opinion on the basis of the limited information I've seen.
United Russia is a party of power more than one of ideology or even Putin. I wouldn't trust this guy any farther than I could throw him. He is a neo-liberal and professional politician/parasite, again, in my opinion and based on limited information.
01 June, 2014 02:21
Where-Wolf said...
E posted the translation of an article posted earlier by Saker on the previous thread. I note the similarity between E's introductory thought -- that Russians must beware of internal enemies -- to the sentiment expressed by Evgeny Fedorov in the video posted by New Insight, and seconded by Daniel Rich. Here's his introductory comment:
The level of analytical discussion in the RuNet was excellently described by political commentator Semyon Uralov: "It is fundamentally wrong to think that only our Kievan colleagues have lost their minds and turned into bloodthirsty hysterics due to the Ukrainian crisis. There is an incredible amount of such people among our Moscow colleagues as well."
It is possible that some within Russia are turning their attention to internal enemies but it is also possible that attempts to encourage this are being made by the Anglo-Zionists from without.
It's a bit like casting a magic spell over your opponent. You must encourage him to believe in the reality of the threat to make it real.
Both this article and Federov push the idea that Putin must act now -- bad advice given how well things are going for Russia in geo-strategic terms (although not for Novorossians). Anglo-Zionists fortunes are crumbling. Now would be the worst possible time for Putin to make an aggressive move.
01 June, 2014 03:09
Anonymous said...
Wherewolf -- yes I immediately noticed when I 'looked him up' the irony of Fedorov's background in finance and even the Rosnano org prominently mentioned on his Wikipedia page (but then again Wikipedia is used to put out disinfo). I had assumed from his hard line that he was pure silovik.
Rosnano for those who don't know is Russia's state-funded nanontechnology effort with close ties to Israel's nano establishment (just throwing that out there). Its board like Skolkovo has included Anatoly Chubais, the former Yeltsin advisor, 'liberalizer' of the Russian economy in the 1990s, and a globalist operative if there ever was one in Moscow. Chubais is on the board of Skoltech and if the rumor about him having an Israeli passport is true (we shall find out soon enough with this new law passed in the Duma on reporting foreign passports or facing harsh fines/penalties) then that would make at least two Israeli passport holders on the Skoltech board. Naturally there is a lot of overlap between the Skolkovo and Rosnano 'tusovkas'.
Of course many people connected with these orgs are sincere Russian liberals who were closely part of Medvedev's 'modernization' and 'diversification from oil and gas' efforts, and I don't think Medvedev was a Western agent. He was simply naive and too trusting of the West in Libya and this contributed to the shock among Moscow liberals over Putin's adrupt return, though VVP may have planned to come back all along. Many of the technology and finance oriented 'White Russians' who helped with the Reset and Medvedev's visit to Silicon Valley along with then Gov. Schwarzenegger's trip to Moscow are Stolypinists.
http://en.rusnano.com/about/management/chubais
Again, I think Fedorov is throwing out the charge of '5th Column' too freely -- sort of a Russian McCarthy if you will. Not every prominent Russian who has to 'do business' with the West and invariably deal with CIA plants or probes lacks patriotism. And Evgeny A. Fedorov says NTV and First Channel are answering to the McFaul and Nuland's State Dept., really?
I don't doubt CIA is aggressively seeking to recruit Russian bureaucrats and business people with family and ties abroad all the time, that's their job. But I suspect most of what the Agency gets from these sources who never entirely bite on the bait being dangled with the hook is deliberate Russian disinfo. I'm also convinced that at least some NSA fanatics here in the U.S. have some grudge against the CIA or suspect the 'limited hangout' or 'CIA plant' theories about Snowden /Greenwald/Omidyar advanced by Dr. Steve Pieczenik and Sibel Edmonds actually could be true.
http://pieczenik.blogspot.com/2014/02/ed...lower.html
If Dr. Pieczenik's 'limited hangout' theory is true, and Snowden really is the messenger for John Brennan's CIA knocking its old IC rival down a peg or two, then Putin is doing CIA a favor by keeping Snowden safe and sound where only somewhat sympathetic journalists can reach him. Snowden will never set foot in the U.S. again because then the 'he's a traitor, hang him, he only escaped with 1.7 mil docs because of SVR/GRU/FSB support via Wikileaks' Narrative will start to break down under such simple questions such as how the CIA couldn't bother to muster a single team to stake out the Hong Kong airport and await his arrival (not saying the ChiComs couldn't have beaten the Agency with countersurveillance of their own and gotten Snowden on an Aeroflot flight where Aeroflot was instructed to accept his dubious Ecuadorian/Assange made transit visa, only that the Agency either was incompetent as usual or deliberately let Snowden board that flight to Moscow, hence the NSA grudge vs CIA you see repeated by the NSA's leading social media kingpin, John R. Schindler of the US Naval War College:
http://www.intrepidreport.com/archives/11389
American Kulak
01 June, 2014 03:09
"There are three sorts of conspiracy: by the people who complain, by the people who write, by the people who take action. There is nothing to fear from the first group, the two others are more dangerous; but the police have to be part of all three,"
Joseph Fouche
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