The truth and bare facts about the Bay of Pigs

[David Josephs]

So, when you say "Until you can accurately and reliably tell us what the PLAN was in the minds of those who drafted it". And, you call me (naive and misinformed)? Am I suppose to be a MIND READER?

All I can say out loud here is "wow... just wow." The POINT is that you are not a mind reader at all yet you post with such a definitive position one MUST make the assumption that you can and do read minds, both past and present.... while only offering the words of our gov't leaders as supporting evidence.

That you connect the Objective of the BOP Plan as it was executed, to the desire to rid the Western Hemisphere of Communism is, well, a shock Scott and as I said very naive.

And, you say that I need to research this and that because I don't understand your philosophy? Are you serious?

My philosophy? huh? You need to research this Scott because you actually believe that the BOP was ultimately a plan against Communism... it may have started that way as the impetus of the idea... but what occurred in those April days had little if anything to do with defeating Castro... and everyone knew it but the Executive Branch...

Maybe answer this Scott... if this was that obvious and direct an objective - remove the specter of communism from 90 miles away - why was your father and mother hounded and hunted when there were no ulterior motives? We they a threat to the USA's ability to fight Communism?

Posting the "facts as the media gave them to us" is akin to telling me that 911 was Saddam's doing, which is what the PR agency was paid to convince America... at one point over 90% of Americans believed Saddam was involved in 911....

The KGB and Fidel Castro were two entities the CIA simply could not crack...

Another thought. Only 5 years later the ex-VP was now the most powerful man on the planet... and still no real interest or luck in Cuba...
If BOP was initially shepparded along by Nixon... and Communism was still only 90 miles away in 1963,4,5,6,7,8....

Why all the focus on SE Asia....? y'know other than the massive amount of drug money, the ousting of the French/Corsican drug mobs, the HUGE expenditure of military hardware, and the complete disregard for US citizen's rights and privacy...

No Scott... BOP was designed, at the time of its execution, to embarrass JFK into action or into non-action. Either way the cabal wins...

Ridding the Western Hemisphere of Communism,or the world for that matter is a joke being played upon us to misdirect the bewildered herds into thinking we are actually doing something in that area, much like drugs and poverty... lip service. When Communism finally does implode upon itself due to nothing more than expenses... the bogeyman became TERRORISM.... the never ending cycle of "hot spots", while the military budget grows yet drugs and poverty, civil rights, human rights and privacy and the middle class have eroded away to nothing.

Scott... I have nothing against you or your family... but please don't preach to those who have spent decades studying the topic, that what we see and and what we are told via "government documents" is really how it is, was or ever will be... even more so if related to CIA, ONI, MID, MIA, SIS, etc, etc, etc.....