10-09-2014, 01:47 AM
John Lewis Wrote:Bob Prudhomme Wrote:John Lewis Wrote:Bob Prudhomme Wrote:Just another fairy tale from Mr. Frazier to add to his collection. I've dropped lots of empty casings on a wood floor and not one of them came out looking like CE 543.
It may have hit something else first. A dent like that on fired brass is not uncommon, especially on relatively think brass such as the type used on 6.5mm ammo.
JL.
Mr. McAdams...errr...Lewis
Please explain to all of us exactly how a cartridge case could be dented in this fashion, especially one as relatively "think" as the Carcano.
Pointing out typo's - very mature. You'll notice that I did you the courtesy of not pointing out yours.
Cartridge cases get dented like this all the time. I got the impression that you were a shooter? If you were then you wouldn't be questioning that fact. They get dented when the empty case gets flung from the rifle by the ejector. The extractor drags it from the chamber by gripping its rim near its base. The case is dragged over the ejector by the rearward travel of the bolt causing the case to pivot away from the rifle using the extractor as the pivot point. If the bolt is moved rapidly this can impart a substantial spin to the case - the part farthest from the pivot point moving the fastest. The part farthest from the pivot point is the mouth - which also happens to be a rather thin piece of brass. If that hits something it can get dented. It's as simple as that. Brass can even be dented like that by hitting the part of the rifle receiver on its way out.
This is all very commonly understood stuff to anyone who is reasonably well acquainted with firearms.
JL.
Utter nonsense. I have tried this many times and, while it is possible to bend the edge of the cartridge mouth over, it is impossible to dent it in from the side, as the casing from the 6th floor was dented.
I suggest you make the most of your time here, as your type tends to get banned fairly quickly here.
Mr. HILL. The right rear portion of his head was missing. It was lying in the rear seat of the car. His brain was exposed. There was blood and bits of brain all over the entire rear portion of the car. Mrs. Kennedy was completely covered with blood. There was so much blood you could not tell if there had been any other wound or not, except for the one large gaping wound in the right rear portion of the head.
Warren Commission testimony of Secret Service Agent Clinton J. Hill, 1964
Warren Commission testimony of Secret Service Agent Clinton J. Hill, 1964