11-08-2009, 12:32 PM
Peter,
I for one am grateful for your posts here. Lots of useful insightful stuff. But surely you can see that motivations for membership of DPF are likely to be diverse. We probably share a broad range of beliefs and attitudes about the hidden 'Deep State' structures, initiatives and motives that shape the world (the odd spook lurker excluded of course), but my guess is that agreeing on a clear set of actions to 'do something about it' and affect major change is a different matter entirely.
I can only speak for myself but, in this brave new 21st century world we inhabit and with great reluctance turning conventional wisdom on its head, I am gradually arriving at the conclusion that, Knowledge has largely to be accepted as impotence if I am not to drive myself mad. Maybe its a function of my age, but that's the way it is.
It seems to me that the prospect of affecting substantive change by coordinated action hovers around zero to non-existent. The moment you start to organise (if you are knowledgeable, capable and serious that is - ie a genuine prospective threat to established power structures), you are infiltrated, co-opted, threatened, discredited, find your career at a dead-end, suicided, etc etc etc. Some combination of all of that. (in fact from your posts you probably know more about being on the receiving end of covert shut-T-F-up activities by establishment interests that I - although I do have some myself).
So me? - I confine myself to consistently reading more historical stuff in a week than your average politico probably does in a year and posting about this and that all over the place. Most readers of it probably think I AM mad but frankly that's their problem and I don't give a sh*t anyway. Some of it may just rub off on the odd inquisitive individual since I do go out of my way to be reasonable and civil.
As for getting involved in exchanges with the likes of Len Colby; apart from maybe seeking to sharpen one's debating skills, it's a waste of time IMHO.
I for one am grateful for your posts here. Lots of useful insightful stuff. But surely you can see that motivations for membership of DPF are likely to be diverse. We probably share a broad range of beliefs and attitudes about the hidden 'Deep State' structures, initiatives and motives that shape the world (the odd spook lurker excluded of course), but my guess is that agreeing on a clear set of actions to 'do something about it' and affect major change is a different matter entirely.
I can only speak for myself but, in this brave new 21st century world we inhabit and with great reluctance turning conventional wisdom on its head, I am gradually arriving at the conclusion that, Knowledge has largely to be accepted as impotence if I am not to drive myself mad. Maybe its a function of my age, but that's the way it is.
It seems to me that the prospect of affecting substantive change by coordinated action hovers around zero to non-existent. The moment you start to organise (if you are knowledgeable, capable and serious that is - ie a genuine prospective threat to established power structures), you are infiltrated, co-opted, threatened, discredited, find your career at a dead-end, suicided, etc etc etc. Some combination of all of that. (in fact from your posts you probably know more about being on the receiving end of covert shut-T-F-up activities by establishment interests that I - although I do have some myself).
So me? - I confine myself to consistently reading more historical stuff in a week than your average politico probably does in a year and posting about this and that all over the place. Most readers of it probably think I AM mad but frankly that's their problem and I don't give a sh*t anyway. Some of it may just rub off on the odd inquisitive individual since I do go out of my way to be reasonable and civil.
As for getting involved in exchanges with the likes of Len Colby; apart from maybe seeking to sharpen one's debating skills, it's a waste of time IMHO.
Peter Presland
".....there is something far worse than Nazism, and that is the hubris of the Anglo-American fraternities, whose routine is to incite indigenous monsters to war, and steer the pandemonium to further their imperial aims"
Guido Preparata. Preface to 'Conjuring Hitler'[size=12][size=12]
"Never believe anything until it has been officially denied"
Claud Cockburn
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".....there is something far worse than Nazism, and that is the hubris of the Anglo-American fraternities, whose routine is to incite indigenous monsters to war, and steer the pandemonium to further their imperial aims"
Guido Preparata. Preface to 'Conjuring Hitler'[size=12][size=12]
"Never believe anything until it has been officially denied"
Claud Cockburn
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