11-08-2009, 12:51 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-08-2009, 12:55 PM by Peter Lemkin.)
Peter Presland Wrote:Peter,
I for one am grateful for your posts here. Lots of useful insightful stuff. But surely you can see that motivations for membership of DPF are likely to be diverse. We probably share a broad range of beliefs and attitudes about the hidden 'Deep State' structures, initiatives and motives that shape the world (the odd spook lurker excluded of course), but my guess is that agreeing on a clear set of actions to 'do something about it' and affect major change is a different matter entirely.
I can only speak for myself but, in this brave new 21st century world we inhabit and with great reluctance turning conventional wisdom on its head, I am gradually arriving at the conclusion that, Knowledge has largely to be accepted as impotence if I am not to drive myself mad. Maybe its a function of my age, but that's the way it is.
It seems to me that the prospect of affecting substantive change by coordinated action hovers around zero to non-existent. The moment you start to organise (if you are knowledgeable, capable and serious that is - ie a genuine prospective threat to established power structures), you are infiltrated, co-opted, threatened, discredited, find your career at a dead-end, suicided, etc etc etc. Some combination of all of that. (in fact from your posts you probably know more about being on the receiving end of covert shut-T-F-up activities by establishment interests that I - although I do have some myself).
So me? - I confine myself to consistently reading more historical stuff in a week than your average politico probably does in a year and posting about this and that all over the place. Most readers of it probably think I AM mad but frankly that's their problem and I don't give a sh*t anyway. Some of it may just rub off on the odd inquisitive individual since I do go out of my way to be reasonable and civil.
As for getting involved in exchanges with the likes of Len Colby; apart from maybe seeking to sharpen one's debating skills, it's a waste of time IMHO.
No, I understand the positions of others, I'm just in a low mood personally at the moment and the founders here were a break-off/away from that unmentionable. I try not to debate with Len, long ago tiring of his tricks. I have him on ignore. Let's see Jack was put on 'invisible' this morning by guess who; Craig sends me hate PMs about every post or every 90 minutes, whichever comes first; but there was a moment [lost for now] when if some on that other forum would only speak-up [many are afriad of a few bullies] it might have been able to really make some positive changes. As it is the food fight continues.......with some govt. paid for 'food', perhaps.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass