13-08-2009, 10:18 PM
Thanks Jan, for these pointers regarding Robert Gates. I had not heard the allegations before, that Robert Gates attended the actual meetings in Paris, regarding October Surprise.
By the way, for several reasons I am not convinced that George H. W. Bush actually attended the meeting in Paris, there is just too much information floating around that looks bogus to me, especially the stuff regarding Gunther K. Russbacher and his “Blackbird” flight. By the way, I do not know who actually claimed that a SR-71 would have been used, this seems to me more than unlikely and not very practical at all, I doubt that this would even have saved any time, compared to an efficient private jet or the concorde, by the way. Russbacher himself allegedly uses the word “Blackbird” also for a modified Lear Jet, allegedly the former plane of William Casey.
For more of this “fringe” stuff you could read http://www.rumormillnews.com/HARRY_MARTI...RPRISE.htm
Or http://www.whale.to/b/rm4.html and similar things.
But surely, actual bodily appearance in Paris is not the main issue of the October Surprise, the sabotage of Carter’s campaign by dealing with the Iranians is.
Anyway, for the interested, I quote an article in the NY times regarding Barschel and some CIA communication allegedly intercepted by the GDR Stasi.
[Begin Quote]
The cables apparently refer to Mr. Barschel as "Perch" -- in German it is "Barsch," for the fish -- but are otherwise quite cryptic.
"Jerry took Perch to temple, met with Lokal and Rabbi at 2130," said an excerpt from one cable, dated Oct. 9, 1987 and published this week by the daily Berliner Zeitung. "Perch unyielding, refuses coop."
Two years ago, the newspaper reported, an informant of German intelligence told prosecutors that Mr. Barschel had met in Geneva on that day with Ahmed Khomeini, a son of the late Iranian leader Ayatollah Khomeini, as well as with Israeli, German and other agents to talk about weapons deliveries.
Mr. Barschel refused to give in to Iranian demands, the informant said, and was then a marked man. He was found dead at the Beau Rivage Hotel in Geneva on Oct. 11.
[End Quote]
Full article here: http://www.nytimes.com/1995/01/01/world/...urder.html[/FONT]
So much for now. C.
By the way, for several reasons I am not convinced that George H. W. Bush actually attended the meeting in Paris, there is just too much information floating around that looks bogus to me, especially the stuff regarding Gunther K. Russbacher and his “Blackbird” flight. By the way, I do not know who actually claimed that a SR-71 would have been used, this seems to me more than unlikely and not very practical at all, I doubt that this would even have saved any time, compared to an efficient private jet or the concorde, by the way. Russbacher himself allegedly uses the word “Blackbird” also for a modified Lear Jet, allegedly the former plane of William Casey.
For more of this “fringe” stuff you could read http://www.rumormillnews.com/HARRY_MARTI...RPRISE.htm
Or http://www.whale.to/b/rm4.html and similar things.
But surely, actual bodily appearance in Paris is not the main issue of the October Surprise, the sabotage of Carter’s campaign by dealing with the Iranians is.
Anyway, for the interested, I quote an article in the NY times regarding Barschel and some CIA communication allegedly intercepted by the GDR Stasi.
[Begin Quote]
The cables apparently refer to Mr. Barschel as "Perch" -- in German it is "Barsch," for the fish -- but are otherwise quite cryptic.
"Jerry took Perch to temple, met with Lokal and Rabbi at 2130," said an excerpt from one cable, dated Oct. 9, 1987 and published this week by the daily Berliner Zeitung. "Perch unyielding, refuses coop."
Two years ago, the newspaper reported, an informant of German intelligence told prosecutors that Mr. Barschel had met in Geneva on that day with Ahmed Khomeini, a son of the late Iranian leader Ayatollah Khomeini, as well as with Israeli, German and other agents to talk about weapons deliveries.
Mr. Barschel refused to give in to Iranian demands, the informant said, and was then a marked man. He was found dead at the Beau Rivage Hotel in Geneva on Oct. 11.
[End Quote]
Full article here: http://www.nytimes.com/1995/01/01/world/...urder.html[/FONT]
So much for now. C.