15-02-2015, 07:36 PM
(This post was last modified: 15-02-2015, 08:06 PM by Cliff Varnell.)
David Guyatt Wrote:Personally, I don't really buy into the "punk" argument either (at least based on my understanding of "punk"), because Colby was all about fighting anyone who disagreed with the official version of deep political events. I don't ever recall him ever once pursuing a subject from a non establishment point of view. Pro establishment attitudes are pretty unusual for the rock music industry in general and very strange for the punk culture, I think.
This is an excellent point I needed to give some thought.
As originally practiced by myself and 7 Seconds in Reno in 1980, the philosophy of hardcore punk rock was hella leftist.
https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/sho...ODixS7lx1U
I loved the band the Zeros but the primary reason I brought them up to Reno first was to touch base with their manager, Peter Urban, an avid communist and former manager of seminal proto-hardcore band The Dils.
In 1981 "hardcore punk" went national and then international -- without our fingerprints on it.
No one knew where it came from exactly. Even the people in Reno I worked with didn't know what I was up to.
My intention all along was to maintain the origination of the hardcore punk rock movement as a deep event, which I successfully accomplished for 34 years...If one's goal is obscurity, best to be incompetent in order to be forgotten, and I wasn't a competent music businessman.
So hardcore punk is a contrarian philosophy. Within a movement that set itself apart from mainstream culture and politics there was a contrarian attitude toward the prevailing hardcore punk thinking.
Some HC bands felt encouraged to be "politically incorrect" in response to the very politically correct HC movement.
GG Allin was nothing like I ever envisioned as "hardcore punk," and yet there he was in all his glory.
The assault on group-think begats more group-think. Len Colby's hobby is assaulting what he regards as conspiracy group-think.
The fact that he drove so many people off the EF Political Conspiracy section and spurred the formation of Deep Politics Forum is, no doubt, a source of pride for Mr. Colby.