28-08-2009, 07:56 AM
(This post was last modified: 28-08-2009, 07:59 AM by Peter Presland.)
Ed
I'm far from the most knowledgeable about the whole MKULTRA - MONARCH etc 'mind control' issue on DPF having only recently become interested in it. I have spent a good few hours on it though. It is a vast subject and one strewn with pitfalls for any researcher solicitous for his/her own sanity, not to mention credibility in what passes for normal polite society. The problem is certainly more acute than for 911 and other 'official narrative' debunkers for example.
That said I personally have no doubt that vast effort has been and is being applied to mind control, with much of it involving the grossest of abusive treatment of subjects, both by the SIS's and certain Cults - for want of a better word.
It would be interesting to see who is behind the series - exec-producer(s) writers etc - because from your description its inspiration is straight out of shadow mind control literature, books like Brice Taylor's 'Thanks for the Memories' and Donald Bain's 'The Control of Candy Jones'.
The whole issue is deeply problematical for any research based on the credibility of evidence/testimony provided by 'survivors'. This is because 'survivors' (ie those whose control is breaking down for one reason or another) are just so damaged and imbued with provably false memories alongside the real ones - with the real ones appearing just too revolting and or fantastic to be taken seriously by the average Joe - that 'story-telling' becomes one of the more powerful and less reputation-damaging ways of exposing the issue to the light of day.
The question is 'whose interests is that series REALLY intended to serve?' because, whilst it may be passed off as frivolous sci-fi type entertainment, it sure as hell ain't frivolous to many Deep State interests.
It really is a smoke and mirrors world. I know Jan and/or David G can probably add to it more authoritatively than I.
I'm far from the most knowledgeable about the whole MKULTRA - MONARCH etc 'mind control' issue on DPF having only recently become interested in it. I have spent a good few hours on it though. It is a vast subject and one strewn with pitfalls for any researcher solicitous for his/her own sanity, not to mention credibility in what passes for normal polite society. The problem is certainly more acute than for 911 and other 'official narrative' debunkers for example.
That said I personally have no doubt that vast effort has been and is being applied to mind control, with much of it involving the grossest of abusive treatment of subjects, both by the SIS's and certain Cults - for want of a better word.
It would be interesting to see who is behind the series - exec-producer(s) writers etc - because from your description its inspiration is straight out of shadow mind control literature, books like Brice Taylor's 'Thanks for the Memories' and Donald Bain's 'The Control of Candy Jones'.
The whole issue is deeply problematical for any research based on the credibility of evidence/testimony provided by 'survivors'. This is because 'survivors' (ie those whose control is breaking down for one reason or another) are just so damaged and imbued with provably false memories alongside the real ones - with the real ones appearing just too revolting and or fantastic to be taken seriously by the average Joe - that 'story-telling' becomes one of the more powerful and less reputation-damaging ways of exposing the issue to the light of day.
The question is 'whose interests is that series REALLY intended to serve?' because, whilst it may be passed off as frivolous sci-fi type entertainment, it sure as hell ain't frivolous to many Deep State interests.
It really is a smoke and mirrors world. I know Jan and/or David G can probably add to it more authoritatively than I.
Peter Presland
".....there is something far worse than Nazism, and that is the hubris of the Anglo-American fraternities, whose routine is to incite indigenous monsters to war, and steer the pandemonium to further their imperial aims"
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"Never believe anything until it has been officially denied"
Claud Cockburn
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".....there is something far worse than Nazism, and that is the hubris of the Anglo-American fraternities, whose routine is to incite indigenous monsters to war, and steer the pandemonium to further their imperial aims"
Guido Preparata. Preface to 'Conjuring Hitler'[size=12][size=12]
"Never believe anything until it has been officially denied"
Claud Cockburn
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