Breaking: Explosion Reported at Boston Marathon's Finish Line

[Peter Lemkin]

The 'official' story [or fairytale] has holes in it now large enough to drive a tank through...and they likely will. I fear for the life of the one patsy still alive....an in a hospital...death is easy to make manifest!..as is MC - unless they have him SO tied up in provocations, threats and 'catch-22' he can't tell the truth - or can, but no one in the MSS [Main Stream Society] will believe him. Who would bomb and kill and then go to a party that night and act 'normal'? And the 7-11 wasn't their doing...what else is a big LIE?! I'd suggest most of it. Now you know why the FBI said to NOT look at the other photos of men who seemed suspicious at the Marathon.......Sibel's piece puts it in political context. The only conspiratorial and murderous lone nuts or lone nut brothers are in our police and intelligence apparatus, IMHO. Kindly remember that along with 'normal' tradecraft of making something look like something it is not, the CIA and other 3-letter agencies employed professional magicians to learn their misdirection and other techniques to fool the eye of the viewer. Seeing is not always believing. My uncle was a top famous magician and taught me some tricks and the art of misdirecting the attention of the audience [those watching something of interest]. I know how it can be done, and the new technologies make it even easier, but its been possible before the age of technology - and only takes clever planning and practice. Oh, there were two real bombs...as there were three real demolitions of WTC buildings on 911; just don't so quickly 'buy' what the snake oil salesmen are 'selling' as to how/why/who in either.

[Magda Hassan]

Now you know why the FBI said to NOT look at the other photos of men who seemed suspicious at the Marathon.......

Yes, not a thing in the MSM about all the other suspicious onlookers and all the military types hanging around with their radiation detectors and the bomb drills.

[Jan Klimkowski]

Now you know why the FBI said to NOT look at the other photos of men who seemed suspicious at the Marathon.......

Yes, not a thing in the MSM about all the other suspicious onlookers and all the military types hanging around with their radiation detectors and the bomb drills.

My take is slightly different - from post #150, quoting a newspaper article ridiculing "amateur internet detectives":

Here's a nefarious narrative emerging.

Basically: don't trust "internet detectives", because "only official forces of law and order" can be "trusted" to identify the "true killers".

It's a Sunsteinian variation of: unless we call it a conspiracy, then it's a "conspiracy theory".

Psyops seizing the opportunity to affect the mass psyche.

[Adele Edisen]

Sat, April 20, 2013 11:07:10 AM
How patsies are found and made: Timothy McVeigh
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[Peter Lemkin]

Now you know why the FBI said to NOT look at the other photos of men who seemed suspicious at the Marathon.......

Yes, not a thing in the MSM about all the other suspicious onlookers and all the military types hanging around with their radiation detectors and the bomb drills.

My take is slightly different - from post #150, quoting a newspaper article ridiculing "amateur internet detectives":

Here's a nefarious narrative emerging.

Basically: don't trust "internet detectives", because "only official forces of law and order" can be "trusted" to identify the "true killers".

It's a Sunsteinian variation of: unless we call it a conspiracy, then it's a "conspiracy theory".

Psyops seizing the opportunity to affect the mass psyche.

Well, all I can say is...if those 'white hats' who were doing a drill and had earpieces [with someone watching them and obvious coordination between the lot of them] and bomb sniffing dogs and devices like radiation meters and likely other such that could 'sniff' explosives - even REAL TIME facial analysis of known 'terrorists', they did a pretty HORRIBLE job that day in preventing any harm...unless that was NOT the plan!

Jan, your point is also well taken and is a second thread [or third], in that they want to STOP citizen research and forensic work...too dangerous for the agent provocateurs among us. They couch it in over-simplified and WRONG 'real responsible authority' and 'nutty conspiracy buffs' dualities. Sanctioned conspiracy theories v. Citizen conspiracy theories. Taking the long view, I find the well though out and researched Citizen ones have been correct much of the time - the official versions rarely so.

Looks to me instead of a mini-nuke, we got a mini-9-11 and another in a very long line of shoot/bomb 'em ups by them bad 'ol Muslims. The CIA has long been using, training and flirting with Chechens to annoy Russia and destabilize her. I don't know if the older brother fit into that...but I'd say there is a chance...or other Chechens who were tied in were used to set these two up.

[Magda Hassan]

My take is slightly different - from post #150, quoting a newspaper article ridiculing "amateur internet detectives":

Here's a nefarious narrative emerging.

Basically: don't trust "internet detectives", because "only official forces of law and order" can be "trusted" to identify the "true killers".

It's a Sunsteinian variation of: unless we call it a conspiracy, then it's a "conspiracy theory".

Psyops seizing the opportunity to affect the mass psyche.

Yes, definitely. And even Denninger shows how utterly useless the police were too. Now run along and leave it to the 'experts'.

[Jeffrey Orling]

With the coming of high res video and cameras in everyone's pocket these days it's becoming harder and harder to spin these false narratives. A number of cops have been caught this way.

Clearly the authorities have to ramp up their propaganda. This one seems to have been a test in many ways... and one of them is how mich can the public pull together on their own... And it seems to me that it's a helluva lot.

This can only lead to more control of the web and more surveillance. It looks like we are heading for some sort of reckoning where the transparancy denied will be overcome with leaks and street peoples' reporting.

Clearly many poeple are swayed by and accept the official narrative thinking it unthinkable that the FBI etc. could be engaged in criminal activity or terrorist operations. But more and more are coming to see the police state for what it is.

The question is what will be done? How will the criminals in power who have so much control be unmasked and revealed?

[Adele Edisen]

Comment on my Post No. 174, above:
I note the parallel of MacVeigh's letters to his family members and the apparent relationship of the two Marathon Bomber suspects to their parents, and even to friends and classmates, who had no suspicion of their apparent acts. I also note the nonchalance in their behavior, especially that of the younger one who attends a party and swipes his roommate's admission card to the university gymnasium in order to work out. Strange behavior and moods, really. Were they aware of what had been done? Hard to tell if they were 'acting' or behaving normally, isn't it?

Remember Jack Ruby's nervousness after shooting Oswald, and behaving abnormally, for him. and doing something he would not ordinarily do.

Adele

[Keith Millea]

Earth to Keith...are you certain you actually read this thread?

A pretty stupid question Dawn....

I could say the same about you,when you couldn't figure out why the terrorist killed in the shootout, looked so bloody awful.Have you found the answer yet?

Like I said,I'm not trying to start a ruckus.So far,I don't see these guys as patsies,but terrorist murderers.I may very well be wrong but I haven't seen any evidence yet to prove me wrong.

Just sayin'

[Jeffrey Orling]

The CIA will claim... and get *permission* to (actually has gotten permissin to) engage with terorists in regions of interest to the empire. The empire has no legal or legitate way to influence outcomes around the would other than polite diplomacy and showing or military force... in drill and so forth. What they do is find the unsavory types who they partner with.... by giving them lots of money and weapon... intel and so forth to do the bidding of the empire. These are usually local tribal thugs or warloads or mafia types who could care less about laws and life. These are the CIA partners around the world.

Of course in order for the US to *legitimately* get involved there needs to be a resonable excuse... such as an attack of the US or its interests. Americans could care less if a Monsanto warehouse in tunisia is blown up... so they attacks on American interests need to have real emotional appeal. Boston worked like a charm. The right is clamoring for more crackdown on rights... the miliatry is dusting off plans to go and clean up the Caususes because they are now sending their crazies to attack white bread yanks at sporting events. Next will be rock concerts. Soccer moms will be screaming for more security.

The militia types blather on about taking on the evil US government... with their NRA weaponry. It's not gonna happen. That crowd is more interested in ethnic cleansing with their weapons... and most will gladly sign up to let their sadism run wild around the world and be well paid for it and called heroes for killing.

Fear will make people turn to the government for protection opening the door to fascism.