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Breaking: Explosion Reported at Boston Marathon's Finish Line
#51
Quote:For useful perspective on today's events
in Boston...

How governments encourage acts of
terrorism for their own purposes.


From the above Post No. 51.

I keep wondering if people can ever learn from History?

Adele
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#52
http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/westboro-...de=132AB-1

Westboro Extremists To Picket Boston Marathon Bombing Funerals

(March 19, 2006 file photo showing U.S. pastor Fred Waldron Phelps, Sr., head of the Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kansas. - Gp to URL to see photo of Pastor Fred Waldron Phelps, Sr. - AE)

Tuesday, 16 Apr 2013 03:09 PM

By Michael Mullins

The extremist Westboro Baptist Church says it plans to picket at the funerals of Boston Marathon bombing victims, claiming God sent the blasts that on Monday killed three and injured more than 170 people.

The anti-gay institution known for protesting at the funerals of dead service members made the announcement via its Twitter page.

"The federal government is classifying the bombs as a terrorist attack, but say it's unclear if it's of a domestic or foreign nature," the release said. "Here's a hint God sent the bombs! How many more terrifying ways will you have the Lord injure and kill your fellow countrymen because you insist on nation-dooming filthy fag marriage?!"

The group said Massachusetts invited "this special wrath from God" when it became the first state to pass same-sex marriage legislation in 2004.

Responding to the Westboro announcement, an online petition was launched on the White House website "We the People" calling for the group to be banned from the funerals.

"It's sickening to know that the [Westboro Baptist Church] will be picketing the funerals . . . There is no excuse for this kind of behavior," reads the petition that has received more than 93,600 signatures.

In addition to the petition, a Twitter account affiliated with the hacker group Anonymous also weighed in, warning Westboro on Monday that if it goes forward with its proposed picket it could become a target.

This isn't the first such announcement Westboro has made following an American tragedy.

After the Dec. 14 school shooting in Newtown, Conn., Westboro announced its intentions to picket at the funerals of the victims.

The threat was thwarted after Anonymous hacked the church's website and tweeted out the location of the motel where Westboro's members were staying. A group of prople later formed a human chain to block Westboro members from going through with its picketing.

Adele
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#53
Magda Hassan Wrote:
Peter Lemkin Wrote:That Saudi man who was a suspect, then not a suspect and only slightly injured in hospital has just had all of his possessions at his home taken away by the police......but is still not under arrest nor named as a suspect [ha!]. I think David is correct, this was very likely to soften people up for a 'Big One' coming soon.....

N.B. more are expected to die of their injuries and now 170 are listed as seriously injured. The bomb had a pressure vessel surrounded by explosives. The pressure vessel contained BBs and nails to do maximal damage to flesh.
I think they are still looking for the Asian looking man with a North Korean accent.

Yes, there was some thing particularly nasty about those bombs causing maximum human damage and not damage to the buildings etc.

Tell me it ain't true... an Asian looking man with a "North Korean" accent.

Accents are so easy-peasy to pin down aren't they? And I suppose many cops and feds are familiar with Korean accents, north and south.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#54
David Guyatt Wrote:
Magda Hassan Wrote:
Peter Lemkin Wrote:That Saudi man who was a suspect, then not a suspect and only slightly injured in hospital has just had all of his possessions at his home taken away by the police......but is still not under arrest nor named as a suspect [ha!]. I think David is correct, this was very likely to soften people up for a 'Big One' coming soon.....

N.B. more are expected to die of their injuries and now 170 are listed as seriously injured. The bomb had a pressure vessel surrounded by explosives. The pressure vessel contained BBs and nails to do maximal damage to flesh.
I think they are still looking for the Asian looking man with a North Korean accent.

Yes, there was some thing particularly nasty about those bombs causing maximum human damage and not damage to the buildings etc.

Tell me it ain't true... an Asian looking man with a "North Korean" accent.

Accents are so easy-peasy to pin down aren't they? And I suppose many cops and feds are familiar with Korean accents, north and south.

Aye, Dave, but we Amerikinds are more clever than your Blighty Bricks and most any American, let alone American cop knows a North Korean accent and facial features from those of South Koreans - it comes kind of 'natural'....we can see 'white hats' and 'black hats' supernaturally - that's why we deserve to be the World's Policemen and 'terrorist' experts [we should know, as we are the World's largest purveyors of terror!]. Big Grin
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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#55
Peter Lemkin Wrote:
David Guyatt Wrote:
Magda Hassan Wrote:
Peter Lemkin Wrote:That Saudi man who was a suspect, then not a suspect and only slightly injured in hospital has just had all of his possessions at his home taken away by the police......but is still not under arrest nor named as a suspect [ha!]. I think David is correct, this was very likely to soften people up for a 'Big One' coming soon.....

N.B. more are expected to die of their injuries and now 170 are listed as seriously injured. The bomb had a pressure vessel surrounded by explosives. The pressure vessel contained BBs and nails to do maximal damage to flesh.
I think they are still looking for the Asian looking man with a North Korean accent.

Yes, there was some thing particularly nasty about those bombs causing maximum human damage and not damage to the buildings etc.

Tell me it ain't true... an Asian looking man with a "North Korean" accent.

Accents are so easy-peasy to pin down aren't they? And I suppose many cops and feds are familiar with Korean accents, north and south.

Aye, Dave, but we Amerikinds are more clever than your Blighty Bricks and most any American, let alone American cop knows a North Korean accent and facial features from those of South Koreans - it comes kind of 'natural'....we can see 'white hats' and 'black hats' supernaturally - that's why we deserve to be the World's Policemen and 'terrorist' experts [we should know, as we are the World's largest purveyors of terror!]. Big Grin

That's cleared that question up Pete. Next!:bolt:
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#56
Dear Senator Wicker,

Please find enclosed some Ricin for your personal use.

With kind regards

Terrorist (with North Korean accent)

Quote:'Ricin' found in letter to US Senator Roger Wicker

A letter that has tested positive for the lethal toxin ricin or another poisonous substance has been posted to a US senator, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has said.


The letter was intended for Roger Wicker, a Republican senator representing Mississippi, Mr Reid said.


It was intercepted at a centre handling post for the Capitol in Washington DC, US media report.


Ricin, extracted from castor beans, is 1,000 times more toxic than cyanide.


It can be fatal when inhaled, swallowed or injected, although it is possible to recover from exposure.


'Memphis postmark'
Mr Wicker issued a statement on Tuesday acknowledging the letter.


"This matter is part of an ongoing investigation by the United States Capitol Police and FBI," he said.


"I want to thank our law enforcement officials for their hard work and diligence in keeping those of us who work in the Capitol complex safe."


An official quoted by AP news agency said two tests had shown positive for ricin but the results are not deemed conclusive without further testing.


Ricin


Can be fatal when inhaled, ingested or - most dangerously - injected
One to three castor beans chewed by a child, or just eight seeds chewed by an adult, can be fatal
The toxin is part of the waste produced when castor oil is made
The letter was detected during a routine inspection of mail and did not reach the US Capitol or Senator Wicker's office, a Senate leadership aide was quoted as saying.


Senators were informed of the letter at a closed-door briefing by FBI Director Robert Mueller and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano about the Boston Marathon bombings, the aide added.


The BBC's Jane Little in Washington says there is a heightened sense of alert in the capital after the attacks in Boston but there is no indication so far of any connection between the two incidents.


It is also not clear why the letter was sent to Senator Wicker.


The Senate's chief security office told Reuters: "The exterior marking on the envelope in this case was not outwardly suspicious, but it was postmarked from Memphis, Tennessee."


All mail sent to members of Congress has been screened off-site since letters laced with anthrax were sent to Capitol Hill in 2001.


In 2004, three Senate office buildings were shut after tests found ricin in letters that had been sent to the Senate majority leader's office.


Ricin was the poison used for the infamous murder of Bulgarian dissident Georgi Markov in September 1978.


He was waiting at a bus stop near Waterloo Bridge, London, when a stranger jabbed him in the leg with an umbrella.


The umbrella injected a tiny ricin-filled pellet into Mr Markov's leg and he died three days later in hospital.

"...tested positive for the lethal toxin Ricin or another posoinous substance"

That's clear isn't it. Tested positive for something or another, not sure which. Let's just call it Ricin and be done with it.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#57
David Guyatt Wrote:Dear Senator Wicker,

Please find enclosed some Ricin for your personal use.

With kind regards

Terrorist (with North Korean accent)

Quote:'Ricin' found in letter to US Senator Roger Wicker

A letter that has tested positive for the lethal toxin ricin or another poisonous substance has been posted to a US senator, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has said.


The letter was intended for Roger Wicker, a Republican senator representing Mississippi, Mr Reid said.


It was intercepted at a centre handling post for the Capitol in Washington DC, US media report.


Ricin, extracted from castor beans, is 1,000 times more toxic than cyanide.


It can be fatal when inhaled, swallowed or injected, although it is possible to recover from exposure.


'Memphis postmark'
Mr Wicker issued a statement on Tuesday acknowledging the letter.


"This matter is part of an ongoing investigation by the United States Capitol Police and FBI," he said.


"I want to thank our law enforcement officials for their hard work and diligence in keeping those of us who work in the Capitol complex safe."


An official quoted by AP news agency said two tests had shown positive for ricin but the results are not deemed conclusive without further testing.


Ricin


Can be fatal when inhaled, ingested or - most dangerously - injected
One to three castor beans chewed by a child, or just eight seeds chewed by an adult, can be fatal
The toxin is part of the waste produced when castor oil is made
The letter was detected during a routine inspection of mail and did not reach the US Capitol or Senator Wicker's office, a Senate leadership aide was quoted as saying.


Senators were informed of the letter at a closed-door briefing by FBI Director Robert Mueller and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano about the Boston Marathon bombings, the aide added.


The BBC's Jane Little in Washington says there is a heightened sense of alert in the capital after the attacks in Boston but there is no indication so far of any connection between the two incidents.


It is also not clear why the letter was sent to Senator Wicker.


The Senate's chief security office told Reuters: "The exterior marking on the envelope in this case was not outwardly suspicious, but it was postmarked from Memphis, Tennessee."


All mail sent to members of Congress has been screened off-site since letters laced with anthrax were sent to Capitol Hill in 2001.


In 2004, three Senate office buildings were shut after tests found ricin in letters that had been sent to the Senate majority leader's office.


Ricin was the poison used for the infamous murder of Bulgarian dissident Georgi Markov in September 1978.


He was waiting at a bus stop near Waterloo Bridge, London, when a stranger jabbed him in the leg with an umbrella.


The umbrella injected a tiny ricin-filled pellet into Mr Markov's leg and he died three days later in hospital.

"...tested positive for the lethal toxin Ricin or another posoinous substance"

That's clear isn't it. Tested positive for something or another, not sure which. Let's just call it Ricin and be done with it.

The timing is interesting...it comes just days after the Boston Marathon 'thing'; as did the anthrax letters begin shortly after the 911 'thing'. Anyone know anything about the 'target'. Your point is well taken, David, on the clarity of the toxins enclosed. Generic toxins are SO much cheaper than brand-label toxins, anyway. If they didn't know what it was, how did they know it was a toxin [unless they have 'tasters' as potentates and dictators have for centuries - and one expired upon ingestion]? A very strange period we have entered.......

Quick info on who Wicker may be....and why his letter got the 'poison'...

U.S. Senate

Committee Assignments, 112th Congress
Senate Committee on Armed Services
United States Senate Armed Services Subcommittee on Airland
United States Senate Armed Services Subcommittee on Strategic Forces
United States Senate Armed Services Subcommittee on Seapower (Ranking Member)
Senate Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs
Subcommittee on Economic Policy
Subcommittee on Housing, Transportation, and Community Development
Subcommittee Securities, Insurance, and Investment
Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation
Subcommittee on Aviation Operations, Safety, and Security
Subcommittee on Communications, Technology, and the Internet
Subcommittee on Consumer Protection, Product Safety, and Insurance
Subcommittee on Oceans, Atmosphere, Fisheries, and Coast Guard
Subcommittee on Science and Space
Subcommittee on Surface Transportation and Merchant Marine Infrastructure, Safety and Security (Ranking Member)
Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs
Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe

Caucus memberships
Congressional Human Rights Caucus
Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus
International Conservation Caucus
Interstate 69 Caucus (Co-Chair)
Sportsmen's Caucus
Tennessee Valley Authority Congressional Caucus

Probably more important would be to know what important votes he was planning on saying Yea or Nea to in the near future.....
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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#58
He's a busy boy isn't he. Maybe he ought to now apply for membership of the subcommittee on terrorism and toxins?
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#59
David Guyatt Wrote:He's a busy boy isn't he. Maybe he ought to now apply for membership of the subcommittee on terrorism and toxins?

Membership on that one is classified and so he might be....:mexican: But like the anthrax, this might be one of several poison pen letters.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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#60
On Aangirfan blogspot, I saw a story about Inspire Magazine, said by the US (in other words the west) to be an al-Qaeda online magazine, but said by Iran to be a CIA front.

What is clear is that no one seems to know for sure who actually is behind Inspire Magazine.

But it published a how-to-make your very pressure cooker bomb:

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The Daily Bellylaugh today has published a story about this. Personally speaking, I treat much of what the Bellylaugh publishes with more than a grain of salt, since it does have, apparently, certain allegiances. Allegedly. But the newspaper does mention the following:

Quote:Last October, Quasi Muhammad Nafis, accused of attempting to bomb a Federal Reserve Bank building in New York, was said by prosecutors to have read Inspire and even to have written an article in the hope that the magazine would publish it.[size=12]He, though, was trapped by an FBI sting operation. His car bomb was a fake given him by an undercover operative.
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The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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