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Breaking: Explosion Reported at Boston Marathon's Finish Line
Magda Hassan Wrote:
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Still, one would have to explain their having weapons to carjack and fight with police with...if either/both of those events ever took place as we have been told....
Well, we haven't seen anything that would indicate this. All their friends and family say it is out of character. We have seen no video of them putting any back packs down in either location just photos of them around the area along with thousands of other people and several others who were acting suspiciously. We have seen zero footage of any of the 'fire fight' and get away car. The 711 is bogus. What else is?

And what of the 'controlled explosion' of their apartment?! Did that happen, and if so why?! There seems to be an attempt to exclude witnesses [dead or shot in the neck, twice] and evidence [blowing up their home, etc.] The patterns are very ominous and there are too many to be 'coincidence'. I still can NOT believe someone - anyone - would set off two bombs killing 3 and seriously hurting 176 and then go about one's life and social engagements as if nothing was out of the usual....unless they were 'there', but had NOTHING to do with it. We know little [on purpose], but if they did get weapons, it may have been when they realized they had been set up [saw their photos on TV, internet, etc.....just as LHO went home to get his gun when he realized he had been set up! These two according to their friends didn't have or use weapons....but maybe the friendly and helpful FBI armed them recently, under some guise. And in case you missed it, the 'authorities' have stated they will be denied legal representation at this point - perhaps forever. Sounds fair and very American to me! :mexican: The question really comes down to what could any 'terrorist' hope to take away from America that the official authorities have not already!! I don't forget that what happened was a horrible act; I only question whether these two are the actual instigators and actors in this - or patsies and have been set up. They certainly are NOT being given legal protections guaranteed [sic] under the law...in our now lawless State. And you can forget about presumption of innocence. Obama has already declared them guilty - as have the Police, FBI and MSM. They don't dare let them have legal representation - as it might lead to the Truth of the matter. LHO had a hard time getting legal representation too. Patsies are always denied any.
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I have neither read of or seen the evidence that these fellas were armed and engaged in fire fights / shoot out with authorities... or had bombs such as explosive belts... being corroberated by / with photos from any independant sources. It's all media parroting... building up the case that these guys were armed and dangerous.

It sounds more like they were being hunted like helpless deer. Maybe
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Peter Lemkin Wrote:And what of the 'controlled explosion' of their apartment?! Did that happen, and if so why?! There seems to be an attempt to exclude witnesses [dead or shot in the neck, twice] and evidence [blowing up their home, etc.] The patterns are very ominous and there are too many to be 'coincidence'. I still can NOT believe someone - anyone - would set off two bombs killing 3 and seriously hurting 176 and then go about one's life and social engagements as if nothing was out of the usual....unless they were 'there', but had NOTHING to do with it. We know little [on purpose], but if they did get weapons, it may have been when they realized they had been set up [saw their photos on TV, internet, etc.....just as LHO went home to get his gun when he realized he had been set up! These two according to their friends didn't have or use weapons....but maybe the friendly and helpful FBI armed them recently, under some guise.

Here are some photos of their flat. It looks very typical of two young men flatting together with out mum. No sign of controlled explosions that I can see....everything intact as far as I can see....

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EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: Suspected Boston Marathon bombers lived in squalid, ramshackle apartment

Photos snapped by the Daily News show the unit in a Cambridge, Mass., building in disarray with clothes piled everywhere and a half-eaten meal left on the table. The apartment also had a makeshift plywood door.

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BY MARK MORALES AND LARRY MCSHANE / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

SATURDAY, APRIL 20, 2013, 11:32 PM


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The brothers did not return home after robbing a convenience store on Thursday night.



The Tsarnaev brothers never finished their final meal together.
Plates of half-eaten food remained visible Saturday in the third-floor Cambridge apartment that authorities say served as the unlikely epicenter of the Boston Marathon bombing plot.
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A non-descript building where Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev lived.


PHOTOS: MANHUNT FOR BOSTON MARATHON BOMBING SUSPECTS
Exclusive Daily News photos of the siblings' walkup apartment showed the once-anonymous pair shared a squalid existence before Dzhokhar, 19, and Tamerlan, 26, were spied with their backpacks at last Monday's race.
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© ALLISON JOYCE

The exterior of the Tsarnaevs home in Cambridge, Mass.


Dzhokhar remained hospitalized with a gunshot wound one day after his big brother died in a fierce gunfight with law enforcement in Watertown, Mass. a bloody finish to five terrifying days.
RELATED: FRIENDS OF ACCUSED BOSTON BOMBER ARRESTED
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Sporting equipment and clothing was found throughout the apartment.


Their Apartment 3 sits behind a makeshift plywood door, up a rickety bannister and stairs, in a nondescript building tucked on a quiet residential block in Cambridge.
Though much of the apartment was in disarray, the remnants of the brothers' uneaten final meal remained undisturbed with two chairs alongside their dinner table.
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Tamerlan Tsarnaev was married and had a child, but no signs were found in the apartment indicating that they lived there with him.


PHOTOS: RELIEF AFTER MANHUNT FOR BOSTON MARATHON BOMBER DZOKHAR TSARNAEV ENDS
The brothers never returned home after they were spotted Thursday night at a 7-Eleven. Authorities believe the pair subsequently killed a college police officer and carjacked an SUV before the shootout with authorities.
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Athletic gear, including boxing gloves, skis, numerous sneakers and a basketball, was found inside the Tsarnaev brothers' Cambridge apartment. Nothing overtly menacing was found. The door of their unit was made of makeshift plywood.


The apartment bore indications of the brothers' athleticism a set of skis, snow boots, boxing gloves, a basketball and assorted sneakers.
RELATED: FINAL SHOOTOUT BETWEEN DZHOKHAR TSARNAEV AND POLICE
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Other miscellaneous items were found inside the apartment, such as an old stereo, a gas can and a can of motor oil.


A bookcase with some cheap pottery stood near the dinner table, while a Crock-Pot eerily reminiscent of the pressure cookers used in the homemade marathon bombs was visible nearby.
The immigrant siblings left something else behind stunned and scared neighbors.

JULIA MALAKIE

Tamerlan Tsarnaev, a suspect in the Boston Marathon bombings, was shot by police on Thursday night. He died shortly afterward.


RELATED: ONLINE SLEUTHS IN BOSTON MANHUNT ON REDDIT AND 4CHAN
"I lived right underneath them and they were making bombs," said Albrecht Ammon, 18, who lived downstairs. "It's scary."

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Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was apprehended yesterday after being on the run for nearly a day.


Ammon remained spooked by the thought of what went on in the apartment in the weeks before the twin blasts that killed three and injured another 183 victims.
RELATED: TAMERLAN TSARNAEV LOST AMERICAN FRIEND TO GRISLY MURDER
"How could you do a bombing like that?" he asked Saturday. "They planned it out and they tried to hurt people .... They acted like a normal family."
There were no lingering signs of anything exceptional in the home just an old stereo, a gas can, a can of motor oil and boxing handwraps hanging from a wire.
RELATED: DZHOKHAR TSARNAEV PARTIED, WENT TO GYM DAYS AFTER BOMBING
The front lawn was muddied from the tracks of investigators pouring into the apartment on Friday. Ammon said the brothers were typically quiet and caused no problems in the building.
Tamerlan would honk his car horn as a hello when driving on the street. Although the older brother was married with a child, there was never any sign of his family at the apartment.
Ammon, who attended Cambridge Rindge and Latin High School with Dzhokhar, remained puzzled by one question about his old neighbors.
"I just wanted to know, Why?' " he asked. "They had a nice life. I want to know why."



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Kenneth Kapel Wrote:Watching this "celebration" live I didn't, and still don't know what to make of it. But is seemed to be not spontaneous to me and I looked at it with embarrassment and a little shame. Maybe its just me.
No, it's not just you. I sent an email to many in Boston yesterday re some of the strangness, (an understatement). No reply. I had called one person re Martial Law and left message. He messaged me back via fb...all good. Drinking the kool aid. Sad.

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Peter Lemkin Wrote:Suspect #2 is [we are told] still too injured [or unconscious] to talk. Confusedhutup: I'll bet the FBI/DHS/et al. are all broken up about that! angryfire
And this story just keeps growing and morphing. Hospital on lockdown re comment. I wonder if he is:
1.Alive?
2.In any hospital?
3.Being tortured into a confession.

At this point I am expecting to soon hear he's passed on from all his injuries, injuries that keep mounting up.

And the fans in Boston will again cheer. Ah justice. Weeps.

Dawn
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Magda Hassan Wrote:
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Suspect #2 is [we are told] still too injured [or unconscious] to talk. Confusedhutup: I'll bet the FBI/DHS/et al. are all broken up about that! angryfire

Here he is climbing out of the boat. Seems reasonably okay to me even if it hasn't been a great day for him. They are trying to say he tried to commit suicide by shooting himself twice in the neck which is the reason he cannot talk apparently....

Quote:CBS News: Dzhokhar Tsarnaev May Have Attempted Suicide Before Capture

April 20, 2013 9:29 PM


Three people were killed and more than 180 injured in the two bomb blasts near the Boston Marathon finish line.[Image: boat.jpg?w=300]Boston Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev leaves the boat he was hiding in April 19, 2013. (Photo courtesy: CBS News)



BOSTON (CBS) Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, theBoston Marathon bombings suspect captured alive Friday, may have tried to commit suicide before he was apprehended, according to CBS News.[URL="http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/04/20/dzhokhar-tsarnaev-under-heavy-guard-unable-to-speak-yet/"]
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Tsarnaev suffered at least two bullet wounds including one to his neck before he was arrested in Watertown, CBS News security analyst John Miller said Saturday night.
The bullet wound to the neck, which has an exit wound in the back of the 19-year-old's neck, "is very possibly a suicide attempt," said Miller, a former assistant director at the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
Miller also said the neck wound is the primary reason why Tsarnaev is unable to speak with investigators, who are hoping to interrogate the suspect to find out, among other factors, whether he and his older brother acted alone in the bombing attack on the Boston Marathon
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Yes, well shooting yourself in the neck is the obvious thing to do if you decide to top yourself. Only fools place the barrel again their temple or in their mouth.

Doh!
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Magda Hassan Wrote:
Peter Lemkin Wrote:CBS News Special Report: During the late night shootout that ended in his death, Boston Marathon bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev threw a pressure cooker bomb at police. John Miller reports.
His hands look fully intact in the morgue photo I have seen. If it is the same person and it seems to be. They are saying the 'bomb' blew up too.

Ditto. The wounds do not look consistent with the official story do they.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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David Guyatt Wrote:
Magda Hassan Wrote:
Peter Lemkin Wrote:CBS News Special Report: During the late night shootout that ended in his death, Boston Marathon bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev threw a pressure cooker bomb at police. John Miller reports.
His hands look fully intact in the morgue photo I have seen. If it is the same person and it seems to be. They are saying the 'bomb' blew up too.

Ditto. The wounds do not look consistent with the official story do they.

Someone please post the autopsy photo url again. But, the authorities could NOT lie - they are American authorities! - what's wrong with you people?!
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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Several thoughts:

1) It is nearly miraculous that he could shoot himself in the neck so that he couldn't talk but was still alive. The neck is a target rich environment for committing suicide. If he dies from his wounds, it means that the allegedly desired information of why he and his brother committed their heinous acts will go with them to their graves.

2) As much as I would hope that this were the act of a couple of disgruntled sociopaths, it strikes me as a made for television training film on how get ready for the next chapter. I am so suspicious that even the boat thing seems contrived -- they put him in the boat and made sure he was "discovered." And then there is the spontaneous celebration that breaks out replete with flags and a well organized photogenic crowd of happy young people ready to party and celebrate their freedom.

3) If this is the staged event it seems to be, it implies something very big coming our way.

4) Autopsy photo URL: http://i.imgur.com/0U0ozqt.jpg
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Not happy reading, but suicides via gunshot form part of a study...
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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