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Breaking: Explosion Reported at Boston Marathon's Finish Line
Xymphora:

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http://xymphora.blogspot.com.au/2013/04/...ughts.html

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The problems with the ridiculousness of the Official Story are starting to appear, although the usual suspects with their usual Islamophobic motives are also doubling down on the crazy.

"Boston bombing suspects: Tsarnaevs' motive in attack sought":
"Bettencourt, the University of Massachusetts student, said he saw Dzhokhar Tsarnaev at the campus gym the day after the bombing. "I talked to him about it like he was a regular kid," Bettencourt said. He recalled Dzhokhar Tsarnaev saying, "tragedies happen.""
and:
"The two brothers displayed an amateurish modus operandi, failing to disguise themselves from cameras, suggesting they were motivated by feelings of social alienation as immigrants in the U.S., said Philip Mudd, a former CIA deputy director in the agency's Counterterrorist Center. "They didn't have an after-action plan," Mudd said on CNN's "Fareed Zakaria GPS" program Monday. "This looks more to me like Columbine than it does like al-Qaeda," Mudd said on "Fox News Sunday," referring to the 1999 high school shootings in Columbine, Colo., by two teenage boys that killed 12 students and a teacher, and wounded 21."


Authorities have quietly reversed themselves on the 7-11 robbery, probably realizing that the brothers' desperate need for money and their complete unpreparedness for any kind of escape makes a mockery of the Official Story.

"The FBI Boston-Chechnya charade" The elder brother probably wasn't radicalized in Chechnya, he was probably spying for the Americans.

"Bad Reporting on Boston Marathon Attack" Here comes the sleeper cell: "Boston bombers: FBI hunting 12-strong terrorist "sleeper cell" linked to brothers Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev" On a lighter note: "Kerry Compares Boston Victims, Marmara Terrorists"

Note how American authorities managed to enforce martial law over the entire city of Boston, with not only nary a peep of protest from 'civil libertarians', but with actual cheering by the populace for the police. This will be an excellent precedent for the American government. Note also the big deal made about the 'emergency exception' to the reading of Miranda Rights. This connects to the American right-wing fantasy, now swallowed whole by American 'progresssives', of the '24' scenario - I have to say served up directly from Israel - of imminent terrorist danger requiring immediate questioning, an outright lie in this case as we later found out that Dzhokhar was on death's door, physically unable to speak or communicate in any way. Still, they had to reinforce the idea of terrorism always trumping civil rights, an idea beloved by both right and 'left'.
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Not to condone the violence but the US regularly slaughters civilians in its cowardly predator drone attacks overseas. This media posing of the horror of killing innnocent civilians doesn't somehow quite stretch overseas to US killing of civilians there. This is usually answered with an editorial that we are creating more enemies than friends and is quickly forgotten.
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Team - excellent work.

I didn't believe Uncle Ruslan's righteous denunciation when I first heard and saw it.

His background is, ahem, spectacularly spooky.

Now, consider this. Chechen sources state that if the older brother Tamerlan was radicalised in a Chechen mujahadeen camp then he would been considered for deployment in an action against Russia. They are adamant that there is no way he would have been deployed in an action against America.

So, the chatter between the FBI and the KGB is far more likely to have consisted of searching for any signs of anti-Russian activity on Tamerlan's part.

However, back in America, Tamerlan's mujahadeen background may have prompted US intelligence to recruit him as a double agent to penetrate radical islamic groups.

We're always told how desperate western intelligence is for convincing "human int".

There are curious parallels with Oswald, who travels to the USSR, marries a Russian woman and has a child, in what seems to be a marriage of convenience.

Tamerlan marries an American woman, Katherine Russell, and has a child.

The following piece is frankly unbelievable.

The FBI is still negotiating with a family lawyer as they request an interview with Marina Os...... Sorry, Katherine Russell Tsarnaev.


Quote:Katherine Russell Tsarnaev, Wife Of Tamerlan Tsarnaev, Wanted By Feds For Interview

By MICHELLE R. SMITH 04/22/13 09:04 AM ET EDT AP

Video, Katherine Russell, Katherine Russell Tsarnaev

PROVIDENCE, R.I. -- Federal authorities have asked to speak with the wife of suspected Boston Marathon bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev, and her lawyer said he is discussing with them how to proceed.

Amato DeLuca told The Associated Press on Sunday that Katherine Russell Tsarnaev did not speak to federal officials who came to her parents' home in North Kingstown, R.I., Sunday evening, where she has been staying since her husband was killed during a getaway attempt early Friday.

Tsarnaev, 26, and his brother, Dzhokhar, 19, two ethnic Chechen brothers from southern Russia, are accused of planting two explosives near the marathon finish line Monday, killing three people and injuring more than 180. A motive remains unclear.

DeLuca said he spoke with the officials instead, but would not offer further details.

"I spoke to them, and that's all I can say right now," he said. "We're deciding what we want to do and how we want to approach this."

DeLuca also offered new details on Tamerlan Tsarnaev's movements in the days after the bombings, saying the last day he was alive that "he was home" when his wife left for work. When asked whether anything seemed amiss to his wife following the bombings, DeLuca responded, "Not as far as I know." He said she learned her husband was a suspect in the bombings by seeing it on TV. He would not elaborate.

DeLuca said his client did not suspect her husband of anything, and that there was no reason for her to have suspected him. He said she had been working 70 to 80 hours, seven days a week as a home health care aide. While she was at work, her husband cared for their toddler daughter, DeLuca said.

"When this allegedly was going on, she was working, and had been working all week to support her family," he told the AP.

He said Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was off at college and she saw him "not at all" at the apartment they shared with her mother-in-law.

Katherine Russell Tsarnaev was attending Suffolk University in Boston when friends introduced her to her future husband at a nightclub, DeLuca said. They dated on and off, then married in 2009 or 2010, he said.

She was raised Christian, but at some point after meeting Tamerlan Tsarnaev, she converted to Islam, he said. When asked why she converted, he replied: "She believes in the tenets of Islam and of the Koran. She believes in God."


So, on the one hand we have hysterical claims that the brothers were about to go on a mass killing spree. Whilst on the other hand, the authorities are pussyfooting around wondering whether they can interview Mrs Tsarnaev, who is surely a primary witness as to what her supposedly murderous husband was planning.

Please. Pretty please. Please can we interview Mrs Tsarnaev?


:monkeypiss: :director:

Just like LHO, Tamerlan reeks of double-come-triple agent, set up by his handlers as an ideal patsy to ensure a national security state coverup.

Note that already the FBI is being incredibly defensive, and doubtless shredding and burning much evidence of its interactions wtih Tamerlan.

Question number one is: Who ran Tamerlan?

If Oswald is the model for Tamerlan Tsarnaev, there is enough noise and potential collateral damage to ensure that all parts of the national security state must commit to the Official Story.

Boston's version of the Warren Commission.

Here's a rhetorical but serious question:

Who gets to play Richard Case Nagell - The Man Who Knew Too Much - in this tangled web?
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

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"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
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You hit the nail right on the head, Jan.

Here is another interesting piece. For the photos which are an essential part of the story go to the original [I uploaded only about 1/6th of them] at http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2013/04/...oto-essay/

by Scott Creighton

You don't need conspiracy theorists. Just take the Feds at their word and you'll see it.

If you believe the official story of what happened on April 15th at the finish-line of the Boston Marathon, then you have to know that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is innocent of the charges leveled against him. You cannot avoid it.

According to the new official story (remember the "Bag Men" story that was fed to the New York Post by officials?) Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev went down to the finish-line of the Boston marathon carrying bombs in their backpacks and planted them in two locations about a block apart and then hung around and watched the carnage unfold.

They claimed they had video proof of at least one of them, Dzhokhar, dropping his bomb and an eyewitness who saw Tamerlan drop his at the feet of the witness while making eye contact with him and walking away.

They then, according to the story they have video evidence of this, hung around, watched the carnage only to slowly walk away from the scene.

That is the official story. And that story proves Dzhokhar is innocent. And if Dzhokhar is innocent, more than likely, so is Tamerlan. Let me show you why.

1. Circumstantial but based on hard evidence

First of all, the Feds have produced neither of the two videos they claim to have showing 1. Dzhokhar planting a bomb and 2. them hanging out watching the aftermath then slowly walking away. In fact, the evidence we have suggests a totally different story. The new story about all of this drops any mention of those two videos down the memory hole.

The second thing to remember is the fact that the FBI pretended to need our help to identify the two men while the entire time their own local field offices had been in steady contact with the boys for at least two years. The FBI has come out since and admitted their involvement with the boys and several congressmen are asking how they "dropped the ball" on this one. The FBI is avoiding answering congress' questions.

I have found evidence to suggest that they were in fact being handled by an FBI confidential informant and I believe that fact is likely to come out very soon. The congressmen are starting to ask for the FBI's files on these boys. Family members, even the one trying to help the Feds, suggest that they were being manipulated by "mentors" which is standard operating procedure for the FBI's domestic terrorism task force. In fact, it appears from the official photos of the boys, they were indeed waiting for quite a while in front of a restaurant in the area to meet someone… someone who told them to be there. Someone who deliberately put them in the wrong place at the right time.

As damning as all of this is, the lies, the connections to the boys, the artifice of not knowing who they were, their being brought there by someone… as damning as it is, it's primarily circumstantial. Though that is not to say it does not qualify as potential evidence in a court of law, it is not hard physical evidence of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev's innocence.

Not to worry, the official story itself provides that.

2. Hard evidence

The new narrative is that one of the victims, Jeff Bauman, identified the older brother Tamerlan as being the one who placed his bomb down at Jeff's feet while making eye contact with him and then he walked away. He said he had a dark ball cap and glasses and that is Tamerlan in the photos.

Honestly, that story is ripe with wrong. Were anyone to do that to you would you just stand there next to the backpack waiting to see what happened? I doubt it. But take him at his word (and remember, the FBI has teams trained to illicit the kinds of witness statements they need). And also remember, they claim this information came to them on Wednesday, while Jeff was still heavily drugged.

But let's take them at their word. After all, it is their official story and thus the one some of the people in this country accept as the gospel.

Jeff was injured in the first explosion, the one closest to the finish line. Of that there is no question. That means the bag that was dropped there was Tamerlan's bag. Let's look at the evidence.

First, their bags respectively Tamerlan has a darker colored bag while his younger brother is carrying a light grey bag. Also notice the color of Tamerlan's pants. This will be important later trust me.

bag 13

If you take the FBI's recounting of Jeff's statement at face value, then that means Tamerlan's bag is this one, from the official evidence of the crime scene:

bag 16

You can make the argument that this is a lighter color than Tamerlan's bag and you can also wonder why it is that it seemed to have audio cable in it as if it's just one of the techie's bag from the set-up of the finish-line PA system or TV cameras. You can make that argument, but for the sake of suspended disbelief, let's say it is indeed Tamerlan's bag and the bag the bomb was in when Jeff lost his legs. We'll give the official story a mulligan on that one.

If that is the dark bag carried by the two brothers, over next to the site of the first bombing, then the only bag left to be at the scene of the second explosion is the one being carried by Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. And indeed, that is the official story.

This is where it gets interesting.

Here is a picture of what is being hailed as an image of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev "dropping" his pack which had the bomb in it.

[Image: bag-5.png?w=468&h=393]
What you see is not a man "dropping" a bag. What you see is a man CARRYING a bag while walking by. Notice, right above the girl's shoes you can see the bottom of the bag. It is suspended in the air, not touching the ground. Look at how it's suspended at an angle. It's being carried by the strap, the right strap, in his left hand. Look at how he is moving past the people, on his way somewhere. And more importantly, look at where he is in relation to the iron grate and the metal security fencing. These facts will be important in a second.

Also note the light color of the pack as consistent with the image from before.

There is an image that is not circulated that much anymore because it tells a very different story than the official one. The image below shows the moments after the second bomb detonated and the location of several key pieces of evidence including what is claimed to be the bag that was carrying the second bomb.

bag 2

This is an important image because it clearly shows the blast pattern of the explosive which was placed in front of the fence beside the mailbox, as you can see by the locations of the fence and other debris just after the blast. There is no question where the detonation took place. In fact, a bystander has recently given an interview claiming his life was saved by the mailbox. If the bomb had been place behind the fence and behind the mailbox on the sidewalk, no bystanders could make that claim, only runners.

But leaving that for a minute as it goes to witness statements and this is about hard evidence, let's get back to the evidence.

Remember this pic?

bag 1

This bag is in the exact location of where the bomb had to be placed. It is a large enough bag to hold a backpack and a pressure cooker, though it is not clear if the second bomb was actually made with a pressure cooker. But look at the location and then look at this.

bag 11

We can see from the blast wave of the explosion that something close to the detonation blocked the blast at a single point and forced more of the energy onto the sidewalk and down the street. That would be the mailbox. Look again at the location of that bag.

I am not saying that bag was the bomb. It may have been, but I am saying that bag is in the location the bomb was detonated. It went off IN FRONT OF THE FENCE and BESIDE THE MAILBOX.

Part of one section of fence is wrapped around the mailbox. The other section is blown back into the crowd and on the sidewalk as you see. Were the bag to be partially under the fence as appears in the photo of the bag in front of the fence, that could easily be the result.

That is NOT the location the Feds claim they show Dzhokhar Tsarnaev "dropping" his pack. Had the bomb gone off where he was and where that image shows him CARRYING his pack, then the fence would have been blown into the street.

Now, let's look at the evidence of the pack itself.

As the image above shows, part of the pack was found in the street. Shape charges inside the pack would have done that if it was placed on the street side of the fence.This is a close-up view of the bags side by side. Remember, the dark bag owned by Dzhokhar's older brother has already been accounted for in the official story. So the only bag left is the light grey one carried by him.

[Image: bag-19.jpg?w=468&h=238]

As you can see, these two things are not the same. Not even close.

The remains of the bag was apparently photographed near it's original position on the street, laying closer to the large white line you can see above. It is a dark colored bag like many others seen by unofficial investigators on the web being carried by various people (some of whom are there on a official basis)

Here is an official image which puts the bomb's pieces right there on the grate as shown in the image of the bag in front of the fence but not where they claim Dzhokhar dropped his bag.

bag 7

Again, this is their evidence.

Lastly, this grisly photo of the blast scene.

bag 10

Bodies blown back, fence blown back toward the sidewalk and the restaurant.

So as you can see, the official story clears Dzhokhar.

But let's continue.

Remember that I told you the official story was they had a video of these brothers standing around watching the carnage before slowly and calmly walking away and that they have not produced that visual evidence as of yet and seem to be walking that story back?

Check this out:

patsy running

This kid was clearly not standing around watching the explosions. He was running away like everyone else. But look closer:

Boston Marathon Explosions

His right arm is down, straight down, while his left arm is bent and his left shoulder is raised as he is running. He is carrying something… he is CARRYING HIS BAG.

The bomb has gone off and he is fleeing like everyone else and apparently he is carrying his bag.

But look closer…

[Image: bag-20.jpg]
Is that Tamerlan trying to catch up with his brother after the explosions? The hat matches, the pants and shoes match. The jacket matches. Is that is Tamerlan running from the scene and not walking away like the officials claimed they had a video of him doing.

This image is less convincing that the others in the sequence but I will put it here for the sake of discussion. It is part of someone else's photo essay on the subject which I highly recommend taking the time to have a look.

[Image: bag-21.jpg?w=468&h=449]


UPDATE: Turns out there is a higher resolution version of this photo and that guy is not Tamerlan. A reader pointed that out. Thanks

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Here's my point:

The official story itself does not prove these brothers set off those bombs. You don't need the "conspiracy theorists" to tell you that. All you have to do is look at the evidence they themselves provide. Consider all the dishonesty they have displayed thus far and their own evidence.
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Scott Creighton shows the reality of martial law here:

Quote: On Friday, April 19, 2013, during a manhunt for a bombing suspect, police and federal agents spent the day storming people's homes and performing illegal searches. While it was unclear initially if the home searches were voluntary, it is now crystal clear that they were absolutely NOT voluntary. Police were filmed ripping people from their homes at gunpoint, marching the residents out with their hands raised in submission, and then storming the homes to perform their illegal searches.

https://www.facebook.com/PoliceStateUSA

This was part of a larger operation that involved total lockdown of the suburban neighbor to Boston. Roads were barricaded and vehicle traffic was prohibited. A No-Fly Zone was declared over the town. People were "ordered" to stay indoors. Businesses were told not to open. National Guard soldiers helped with the lockdown, and were photographed checking IDs of pedestrians on the streets. All the while, police were performing these disgusting house-to-house searches.

Here's the video:





Now, as per my post above, consider that the authorities are still negotiating with Katherine Russell Tsarnaev's lawyer to arrange a time to interview the wife of one of the Boston Bombers.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Scott Creighton shows the reality of martial law here:

Quote: On Friday, April 19, 2013, during a manhunt for a bombing suspect, police and federal agents spent the day storming people's homes and performing illegal searches. While it was unclear initially if the home searches were voluntary, it is now crystal clear that they were absolutely NOT voluntary. Police were filmed ripping people from their homes at gunpoint, marching the residents out with their hands raised in submission, and then storming the homes to perform their illegal searches.

https://www.facebook.com/PoliceStateUSA

This was part of a larger operation that involved total lockdown of the suburban neighbor to Boston. Roads were barricaded and vehicle traffic was prohibited. A No-Fly Zone was declared over the town. People were "ordered" to stay indoors. Businesses were told not to open. National Guard soldiers helped with the lockdown, and were photographed checking IDs of pedestrians on the streets. All the while, police were performing these disgusting house-to-house searches.

Here's the video:





Now, as per my post above, consider that the authorities are still negotiating with Katherine Russell Tsarnaev's lawyer to arrange a time to interview the wife of one of the Boston Bombers.

Disgusting behavior of the 'troops' toward the honest citizens in their homes - 'Hands UP!!!!' Gestapo style...getting us use to it! As far as Russell, surprised they don't just crash through her wall with a tank, shoot their way in, take her and her child and then waterboard both of them....would seem to fit the style of operation thus far. The parallels with LHO are stunning. If so, we will find Russell soon living in a motel with CIA/FBI/MI minders.

I hope some citizens of Watertown sue the hell out of the 'troops' for their behavior - treating them all like terrorists. If you're not a stormtrooper for the Empire, you are suspect as a terrorist. Great :popcorn: If the police came to my house [if I had one], I'd likely be shot for resisting such behavior on principle. I won't let a Police State just 'happen' without resistance. Sheeple - and then they cheer these stormtroopers....it is getting like Germany in the late '30s!
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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Something's Rotten in Boston
Who's Investigating the FBI Investigators?:
By Dave Lindorff

I'm not a conspiracy-minded person, but something definitely stinks about this
whole Boston Marathon bombing story.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info...e34699.htm [http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001qWntkkXl5...XWqjA_zvV]
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Adele Edisen Wrote:Something's Rotten in Boston
Who's Investigating the FBI Investigators?:
By Dave Lindorff

I'm not a conspiracy-minded person, but something definitely stinks about this
whole Boston Marathon bombing story.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info...e34699.htm [http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001qWntkkXl5...XWqjA_zvV]

From the one comment:

With regard to the article, "Something's Rotten in Boston," I don't believe the suspects were driving a Mercedes. I think they owned Honda autos and carjacked a gentleman in a Mercedes. Said gentleman was not killed by either of them; rather, he left his cell phone inside the vehicle which is how the police were able to track their whereabouts. I am not discounting your article, as there were too many instances where some information was "leaked" and later discounted or retracted. There is definitely more to the story than meets the eye.

I like Dave Lindorff but some of this stuff is just bad information getting passed around and around.The truth lies in there somewhere,I guess.

Dave talks alot about the FBI and how they set up the other patsies and then adapting that reasoning in the Boston case.But,in ALL those other busts,the FBI used fake explosives,or C4 that had no detonators,so they only caught fire.This then was not an FBI "sting gone bad",as some are trying to say.

Keep digging there has to be jewels in this shit somewhere.I like the lead about the Uncle but I think that path might lead one to an early death.Confusedhock:
"You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”
Buckminster Fuller
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It could be both fake and real... There are many things which don't add up. 176 victims? How many ambulances? How could the bombs with nails and shot not totally destroy the pressure cooker and and bag it was in? It may have been a drill with a fake bomb, fake victims and someone dropped a real bomb... and a few people got hurt... but not as many as they are claiming. The kids appear to be patsies and like LHO don't stand a chance. I would hold your breath waiting for a trial.
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In the first image we see the older (now dead) suspect alive and on the ground waiting to be cuffed. His hands are hovering so there is life in him.

In the second image he has been stripped, presumably to make sure he is not booby trapped or wired with a bomb or such, but he is conscious and walking and completely intact. No obvious bullet wounds bleeding on his body. Certainly no huge gash on the side of his torso as evident in the autopsy photo.


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