On Buddhist Fundamentalism

[Jan Klimkowski]

Looks like it was a European creation and not a Tibetan one so who was to gain?

The SS Ahnenerbe.

They always made up their science/theories/evidence to fit the desired outcome....

Of course the roots of SS Ahnenerbe mysticism lie in the Thule Society.

[Keith Millea]

Of course the roots of SS Ahnenerbe mysticism lie in the Thule Society.

Where does Madame Blavatsky and her Esoteric Buddhism fit into these ideas?I've read here that she even met Hitler.

[Jan Klimkowski]

Of course the roots of SS Ahnenerbe mysticism lie in the Thule Society.

Where does Madame Blavatsky and her Esoteric Buddhism fit into these ideas?I've read here that she even met Hitler.

Keith - theosophy is the link here, but it's complex.

There's a lot of info in the two threads below, which I think we all contributed to at the time.

Rediscovering old threads is one of the pleasurs of DPF:

David Guyatt's Nazi Black Sun Technology

The Great Game, the Vril-ya and Theosophy

[Keith Millea]

Thanks jan,

Yes,I've read through those threads a couple of times.And,they personally pretty much destroyed a belief system that I had earlier thought to be profoundly truthfull,and just plain,"deep as hell".hutup:

But I like Blavatsky....and can't come to a balanced position on her.Her volumes,"Isis Unveiled",along with "The Secret Doctrine",are rightfully occult masterpieces,whatever one thinks of the lady.

[Jan Klimkowski]

Thanks jan,

Yes,I've read through those threads a couple of times.And,they personally pretty much destroyed a belief system that I had earlier thought to be profoundly truthfull,and just plain,"deep as hell".hutup:

But I like Blavatsky....and can't come to a balanced position on her.Her volumes,"Isis Unveiled",along with "The Secret Doctrine",are rightfully occult masterpieces,whatever one thinks of the lady.

The belief system may be profound and truthful.

It's just the Nazi gloss that isn't.....

:noblesteed:

[Keith Millea]

The belief system may be profound and truthful.

It's just the Nazi gloss that isn't.....

Well,what blew it all up for me,and I missed this when I was reading the books,was what was referred to as the Black race being an inferior race.I guess this first came from Blavatsky and the Nazis liked this kind of thinking no doubt.

[Phil Dragoo]

This discussion and its references a fascinating overview of the enoromous tensile strength of the psychospiritual threads wrapping historic leaders.

Seamus Coogan explored the intelligence roots of the UFO myths finding Dulles a fundamental figure.

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http://www.ctka.net/2011/MJ-12_Preamble_I.html

The Dalai Lama spoke at the temple across from us in Santa Fe, detailed for the occasion with its gold dome and bright colors.

Streams of Subaru Foresters sporting FREE TIBET bumper stickers lined Airport Road, parked by believers in the New Messiah.

Whose DCI is a convert to that pilgrimage to the meteorite to whose keeper the Twelfth Imam so deeply obeised.

And we are still in Afghanistan.

China blocks Tibet's emigres; Taliban blew the Buddhas

If there is a battle for the last icon standing

does it explain the spiritual log-rolling

wherein Dulles absorbed the teetering swastika to counter the hammer and sickle

while mocking "that little Kennedy. . .he thought he was a god"

The thrust of quantum physics seems to be that there is not an infinite and unchangeable

that all is determined by man's perception, a most solipsistic infantilism

Intoxicating and alluring to the pitiful parade of leaders

[David Guyatt]

This discussion and its references a fascinating overview of the enoromous tensile strength of the psychospiritual threads wrapping historic leaders.

Seamus Coogan explored the intelligence roots of the UFO myths finding Dulles a fundamental figure.

A very interesting article by Coogan Phil. I think the subject of aliens and flying saucers/ufo's is not complete without including Aleister Crowley's input on the subject, particularly his inner world Master "Lam" being made the prototype of the "Grey Alien" being. To my way of thinking this strongly suggests that there is a deeper occult meaning to UFO subject - and the background of the SS Anenerbe / Thule Society confirms this, I believe.

[David Guyatt]

Thanks jan,

Yes,I've read through those threads a couple of times.And,they personally pretty much destroyed a belief system that I had earlier thought to be profoundly truthfull,and just plain,"deep as hell".hutup:

But I like Blavatsky....and can't come to a balanced position on her.Her volumes,"Isis Unveiled",along with "The Secret Doctrine",are rightfully occult masterpieces,whatever one thinks of the lady.

It's been a couple of decades since I read these books Keith, but I have to say that I was never really taken by Blavatsky or her Theosophy. I have a fairly extensive library of occult books and, some of them are very good. Others are less so. There is a lot of claptrap too. Many of the people writing back in Blavatsky's time - and some time after that also - derived from class structures and were imbued with the sense that occult secrets were for the privileged class, of which they were members. It's classic inferiority complex obviously, but this accounts for a fair amount of the hokus-pokus secrecy that envelops the occult.

This is not to say that some degree of secrecy is required, for a variety of sound reasons. But the main one is, in my opinion anyway, that it is necessary to ensure the tincture of mystery that cloaks the subject. We humans have enquiring minds and a deep mystery appeals to and energizes us. Those who have ears and eyes etc. Also, it is vitally important not to steal any sudden understanding or comprehension - that aha! moment - that a student of the occult reveals to themselves, through study and very difficult work. Those revelations are the gift of their labours.

In the final analysis all the occult amounts to - apart from quite detailed mind techniques - is a platform for growing consciousness. Or rather, that is the case in those schools who have genuine interest in furthering civilisation and assisting man to climb out of his own mire. There are any number of schools and lodges whose purpose is far more nefarious and opposed to these positive aims. The latter are concerned with the here and now and their own gratification and urge to power. Although they drag civilisation down into the mire, most are ultimately to be pitied. Imo anyway. There are others I would happily choke with a rope. But that's just me.