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Phil Ochs - Dealey Plaza Dupe
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14-05-2013, 02:20 PM
Quote: Baez is a completely different heart and mind. Much more the real thing. I agree AND she is still alive. She is a survivor. She is not a martyr. IMO.
"We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I
"We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl
14-05-2013, 04:23 PM
There is evidence for Ochs' participation in government infiltration out of his Ohio college. This forces the question how long did his participation in those programs last into his career? Was his guilt over his membership in those programs and what they did (including the Kennedys) part of what led to his death?
17-05-2013, 12:41 AM
A search on DPF for Dave McGowan turns up whole loads of connections to MK/ULTRA, Project Chaos, and so on. Here is a real winner: https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/sho...ve+mcgowan
"We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I
"We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl 
17-05-2013, 12:53 AM
Lauren Johnson Wrote:A search on DPF for Dave McGowan turns up whole loads of connections to MK/ULTRA, Project Chaos, and so on. Here is a real winner: https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/sho...ve+mcgowanYes, love the Laurel Canyon series.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx
"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her. “I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
20-05-2013, 12:15 AM
Their duet begins at about the three minute mark:
"We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I
"We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl
20-05-2013, 01:01 AM
Looks like a men's prison? "I Shall be Released" Some of them anyway. A captive audience but a very appreciative one by the reception. Great songs and beautiful singers. Big hearts.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx
"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her. “I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
20-05-2013, 01:19 AM
Magda Hassan Wrote:Looks like a men's prison? "I Shall be Released" Some of them anyway. A captive audience but a very appreciative one by the reception. Great songs and beautiful singers. Big hearts. Sing Sing Prison in NY State
"We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I
"We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl
20-05-2013, 10:05 PM
Lauren Johnson Wrote:Joan Baez and her sister Mimi Farina Lauren - thank you. Joan and Mimi - the Counterculture at its purest, and most complex. The Counterculture in the shadow of the Shadow.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek." "They are in Love. Fuck the War." Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon "Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta." The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
21-05-2013, 06:02 AM
On a somewhat related note, there was recently a discussion about Richard Farina, who was married to Joan's sister Mimi, on a Fortean group mailing list I subscribe to. One of the people on the list had just read my novel The Unreals, and he said it reminded him of Farina's novel Been Down So Long It Looks Like Uo To Me. I've never read Farina's book, but am somewhat familiar with his music, and was flattered.
Another person on the mailing list claimed to have a friend who went to high school with Mimi, who showed him an old banjo he'd bought at a garage sale from her, which had belonged to Richard Farina. The friend sold him the banjo, although he remained skeptical of its history. I've enjoyed some email exchanges with Jim Glover regarding his history with Phil Ochs, and Ochs' intelligence connections. It's all pretty confusing to me, but it's fascinating to picture Phil Ochs somewhere in Dealey Plaza on November 22, 1963. And yes, the Laurel Canyon series by Dave McGowan is essential reading.
21-05-2013, 07:06 AM
Don Jeffries Wrote:On a somewhat related note, there was recently a discussion about Richard Farina, who was married to Joan's sister Mimi, on a Fortean group mailing list I subscribe to. One of the people on the list had just read my novel The Unreals, and he said it reminded him of Farina's novel Been Down So Long It Looks Like Uo To Me. I've never read Farina's book, but am somewhat familiar with his music, and was flattered.That is some compliment Don. I would be flattered as well. Don Jeffries Wrote:And yes, the Laurel Canyon series by Dave McGowan is essential reading.We have an interesting thread on that here Don. https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?698-Naval-Intelligence-MKUltra-and-the-Hippie-Movement A[/url]nd some more related here: https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/sho...-Avenue-do S[url=https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?2335-What-did-the-studio-at-Wonderland-Avenue-do&highlight=Wonderland]ome of the Polanski threads also.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx
"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her. “I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation. |
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