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Russell Brand talks with live dinosaur
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"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Jeremy Paxman calls the Houses of Parliament "a remote and self-important echo chamber", and admits he once also didn't vote, and adds that "people are sick of the tawdry pretences".

Aye, aye and aye.

My response remains what it has been for over two decades: positively don't vote in any election. Doing so simply plays their pretend game that democracy actually exists when it doesn't.

Quote:Paxman: Brand was right over public's disgust at 'tawdry pretences' of politics

Newsnight presenter, who berated Russell Brand for never voting, admits 'green-bench pantomime' also stopped him once

[Image: Jeremy-Paxman-and-comedia-010.jpg]Jeremy Paxman and Russell Brand on Newsnight. The interview with the comedian has been watched by some 10 million people. Photograph: BBC


He once asked Michael Howard the same question 12 times and questioned Tony Blair if he was familiar with Megaboobs and Horny Housewives magazines. Now the Newsnight presenter Jeremy Paxman, famous for giving ruthlessly short shrift to politicians, has confirmed that his irascible on-screen attitude towards Westminster is more than skin deep.
The rottweiler figurehead of the BBC2 programme gave both barrels to all three main parties in a no-holds-barred column in the Radio Timespublished on Tuesday.
The presenter, 63, revealed he once did not vote because the choices were so "unappetising" and said politicians' burning desire to order people about was "one of the many reasons they are so odd".
"At the next election we shall have a choice between the people who've given us five years of austerity, the people who left us this mess, and the people who signed public pledges that they wouldn't raise student fees, and then did so the most blatant lie in recent political history," wrote Paxman.
"It won't be a bombshell if very large numbers of the electorate simply don't bother to vote. People are sick of the tawdry pretences," said the presenter who dubbed the "whole green-bench pantomime in Westminster … a remote and self-important echo-chamber".
Paxman's withering critique followed his much-discussed Newsnight interview with Russell Brand last week. The 10-minute encounter, in which Paxman upbraided the comedian because he "can't be arsed to vote", became an unlikely YouTube hit, with 10 million views nearly 20 times Newsnight's average audience.
But despite his criticism of Brand for never voting, Paxman confessed he too had once failed to vote in an election. "I think part of Russell Brand's diagnosis is right. There is a huge sense of disillusion out there," he said.
"Russell Brand has never voted, because he finds the process irrelevant. I can understand that: the whole green-bench pantomime in Westminster looks a remote and self-important echo chamber. But it is all we have. In one recent election, I decided not to vote, because I thought the choice so unappetising.
"By the time the polls had closed and it was too late to take part, I was feeling really uncomfortable: the person who chooses not to vote cannot even be bothered to write 'none of the above' on a ballot paper disqualifies himself from passing any comment at all."
He warned: "We ignore the democratic process at our peril … People died for the right to choose their government, because otherwise power is wielded by the rich and strong for the benefit of the rich and strong.
"Whether you bother to vote or not, someone is going to sit on those benches and tell you what to do."
Recent Newsnight guests to have been "Paxoed" include Tory MP Chloe Smith, when she was economic secretary to the Treasury last year, andAmadeu Altafaj-Tardio, a European commission spokesman who walked off the show after Paxman called him "Mr Idiot".
Paxman, who will complete 25 years on the programme next year, admitted he had low expectations of Brand, whom he interviewed on the show after the comedian guest-edited the New Statesman.
'Spawn of the devil'

"A multimillionaire with a house in California talking about the need to take from the rich and give to the poor. That is what's the word? rich," said Paxman.
"But we really ought to admit it, Daily Mail columnists may think Russell Brand the spawn of the devil. But there is something irresistible about him. The energy, the loquacity, the camp manner, the apparent frankness. He stands squarely in the British tradition of cheeky chappies."
He added: "He [Brand] thinks the wrong people are in charge. Well, perhaps they are. But the people in charge are always people who want to be in charge … I have no burning desire to order people about. Politicians do; that is one of the many reasons they are so odd."
The BBC traditionally frowns on its presenters, especially those in BBC News, using columns to comment on news and current affairs. Strict guidelines were introduced 10 years ago after several controversies caused by corporation presenters and journalists speaking out in newspapers and magazines.
Days after the Tory party chairman, Grant Shapps, complained about a lack of "fairness" in the BBC's reporting, Paxman appeared to be equally dismissive of all three parties.
The BBC declined to comment on Paxman's statements.
In last week's Newsnight interview, Brand asked Paxman: "Aren't you bored, aren't you more bored than anyone? Ain't you been talking to [politicians] year after year, listening to their lies, their nonsense, then it's this one gets in, that one gets in, but the problem continues? Why are we going to continue to contribute to that facade?"
Brand, it appears, may have been closer to the truth than he realised.


The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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Why do they bleat and bay like animals in Parliament, in response to comments made? I know it is some historic anachronism, but it makes them sound like mentally challenged animals, in addition to acting as if they are - and controlled ones, at that. I also love the man who with received English intones endlessly, "Ooorder, Ooorder, Ooorder":Laugh:...ad nauseum. Do they command any respect from the Public at this point in history?

The US 'representatives' are absolutely no better, but at least don't make barnyard/rutting noises.:Blink: They have other ways of making total fools and tools of themselves. At this point in history, they command the lowest respect ever recorded in polls.

Both increasingly evil and irrelevant structures should be labeled as insane asylums and ignored. ::willynilly::
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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