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Tony Blair Asked Me To 'Help Invade Zimbabwe', Says Thabo Mbeki
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Tony Blair Asked Me To 'Help Invade Zimbabwe', Says Thabo Mbeki

South Africa's former president claims that his country was asked to help Britain topple Robert Mugabe.

By David Blair
November 28, 2013 "Information Clearing House - "The Telegraph" - - Tony Blair's Government asked South Africa to help Britain invade Zimbabwe and topple Robert Mugabe by force, Thabo Mbeki, the former president, has disclosed.

When Zimbabwe began sinking into economic collapse and political repression in 2000, South Africa and Britain held starkly different views over how to respond to the crisis. Mr Mbeki favoured a negotiated settlement; Mr Blair wanted Mr Mugabe to go, by force if necessary.

"The problem was, we were speaking from different positions," said Mr Mbeki, who served as South Africa's president from 1999 until 2008. "There were other people saying yes indeed there are political problems, economic problems, the best way to solve them is regime change. So Mugabe must go'. This was the difference. So they said Mugabe must go'. But we said Mugabe is part of the solution to this problem'."

Mr Mbeki recalled an interview given by Lord Guthrie, who was Chief of the Defence Staff and Britain's most senior soldier throughout Mr Blair's first government. In 2007, Lord Guthrie disclosed that "people were always trying to get me to look at" toppling Mr Mugabe by force.

He did not say whether these requests had come from the Prime Minister himself. In any event, Lord Guthrie said that his advice was: "Hold hard, you'll make it worse", suggesting that the idea was never a serious proposition.

"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Nothing surprises me anymore about the "leg-over" man.

To be perfectly honest, nothing really surprised me from the very beginning anyway. That broad politicians smile was a dead giveaway that betrayal was on his mind and in his heart.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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