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The Five Celebrating Israelis: September 11th Foreknowledge and Possible Complicity
#21
When MR got his website up and running, he felt he had to put up one shocking expose after another. He set himself up for trouble. Plus he claims to have been poisoned, his office ransacked, and an also an employee betrayed him. Then he went on the lamb to Venezuela. He of course returned but keeps a very low profile.
"We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I

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#22
Lauren Johnson Wrote:When MR got his website up and running, he felt he had to put up one shocking expose after another. He set himself up for trouble. Plus he claims to have been poisoned, his office ransacked, and an also an employee betrayed him. Then he went on the lamb to Venezuela. He of course returned but keeps a very low profile.

Yep, I think Mike courted fame. I lost touch with him shortly after the Vreeland affair. The last thing I heard was that he had some big money people funding him for mainstream media adverts, and that these people turned out to be crooks of some kind...
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#23
There's no way the Israelis are the principal movers behind 9/11, as they simply wouldn't do such a thing (based on concerns for their own survival) without permission from forces based in the USA. And those forces would obviously not be granting permission for an operation of this scale, on U.S. soil, unless it was something they had concocted. It seems clear the Mossad played a substantial operational role in the 9/11 attacks, but they were implementing the agenda of certain North American elites (albeit an agenda their elites doubtless found agreeable as well).
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#24
Kevin O'Keeffe Wrote:There's no way the Israelis are the principal movers behind 9/11, as they simply wouldn't do such a thing (based on concerns for their own survival) without permission from forces based in the USA. And those forces would obviously not be granting permission for an operation of this scale, on U.S. soil, unless it was something they had concocted. It seems clear the Mossad played a substantial operational role in the 9/11 attacks, but they were implementing the agenda of certain North American elites (albeit an agenda their elites doubtless found agreeable as well).

Yes, I think this is obvious. Only a few 'the Israelis are behind everything' types think otherwise in their antisemitism or irrational posturing of Israel as THE seat of all evil. Personally, I think they were bit players who had possibly been subcontracted for a few things, and may have 'freelanced' on a few others [and likely not punished for this]. Those in the USA who carried this out are likely overlapping with those who use Israel as their permanently moored aircraft carrier in the Middle East; and have long done joint black and false-flag ops with them. That said, the US members of the plot were, IMO, the engine for the event and by far the main players from inception - though execution - to cover-up.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
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#25
British, American and Israeli intelligence are, for the most part, three arms of the same octopus.
“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him.”
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#26
R.K. Locke Wrote:British, American and Israeli intelligence are, for the most part, three arms of the same octopus.

I'd not argue with that. While there are still some rivalries and turf wars, on the 'worst' ops they cooperate. And spying on each other's citizens for the other, as well. Add Oz to this potpourri. And stir. Season with [to taste or need at the moment] Saudi, Turkey, Kazakhstan, S. Korea, Taiwan, Egypt, Colombia, sundry other nations, various NATO countries, home-grown/trained/funded 'terrorist groups', drug deals, money laundering, financial manipulations, multinationals, privatized intelligence, off-the-shelf proprietaries and cut-outs, PR firms, big Media, think tanks, big banks, super rich and other jetsom of a civil and sane society. Very sad is reality laid bare........
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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#27
The main motive was probably securing a reliable oil supply for the Military Industrial Complex and the US economy - which are increasingly one and the same.
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#28
I realize that the military-industrial complex doesn't have much choice at this point, but, strategically, relying upon resources from outside your own territory, with a long and easily disruptable line of supply seems to me at least to be a self defeating proposition. Shouldn't independence from foreign oil be a long term strategic goal of our armed services?
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#29
Probably why the US Navy are developing a fuel for their fleet that will run on seawater...
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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