MH 370: Missing Malaysian Airliner

[R.K. Locke]

They are assuming the southern arc because the northern one would mean the plane having to travel unnoticed through the airspace of numerous countries.

[R.K. Locke]

So many contradictions and unanswered questions in this story.


What happened to the people who supposedly disembarked the plane and had their luggage removed at the last minute?

What is the real story of the Chinese "VIPs" who were on the flight?

Why were the Iranian passengers initially (and bizarrely) described as resembling Mario Balotelli?

How, in this day and age, were passengers allowed to board the plane with stolen passports?

Why was a photograph of the two Iranians obviously (and poorly) manipulated so that they both have the same legs?

How does a pilot suicide theory make any sense whatsoever given the information that we have?



Any more?

[Albert Doyle]

They are assuming the southern arc because the northern one would mean the plane having to travel unnoticed through the airspace of numerous countries.

While I sort of agree with that premise (assuming the information is real) that wasn't what they were claiming. They said it was done by signal analysis science.

[Peter Lemkin]

Another apparent anomaly - what appears to be a plane's 'fire-bottle' - used in case of fire has been claimed to be found near the Maldives [about 1000 Km south of the S tip of India]. Info, disinfo, from another plane, or misidentified?....I can't say...just reporting. Here is the diagram of what the fire bottles look like. To me, it seems to have been in the water a LONG time.[ATTACH=CONFIG]5828[/ATTACH] Pilots claim it is from a plane. It was reportedly found in the last few days on the beach.
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[Peter Lemkin]

suspicious passengers that have been publicly discussed are:

• The two false passport holders
  
• The aircraft maintenance engineer
  
• The mine engineer that gave away his most personal possessions before boarding the flight.
  

Again, just reporting - not validating or supporting any of the above. The last two are very little reported. If true, it is very odd for someone to give away his possessions before going on a flight...

And, as everyone knows, the flight crew has also be held suspect, at times, simply because they were in control of the plane.

[David Guyatt]

Silly me. I thought the British satellite data would've been automatically shared with other states.

MH370 search: China demands to see proof that missing Malaysia Airlines flight crashed into the sea



Angry protests in Beijing as hunt for missing airliner is halted by bad weather

KATHY MARKS

SYDNEY

Tuesday 25 March 2014

Grief-stricken relatives of passengers and crew of the ill-fated flight MH370 have protested outside the Malaysian embassy in Beijing, as China demanded to see the British satellite data analysis which led Malaysia's Prime Minister, Najib Razak, to announce the plane had crashed in the Indian Ocean with no survivors.

The hunt for physical evidence to back up that conclusion and to illuminate why the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 flew thousands of miles off its scheduled course had to be abandoned today because of gale-force winds, heavy rain and turbulent seas.
Underlining the challenge facing the multinational search force of planes and ships, Mark Binskin, the vice chief of Australia's Defence Force, commented: "We're not trying to find a needle in a haystack; we're still trying to define where the haystack is."
While analysis of the Inmarsat data has enabled investigators to narrow the search zone in the remote southern Indian Ocean to one-fifth of the original area, it still encompasses a massive 1.2 million square kilometres.
"This has been an unprecedented event requiring an unprecedented response," the chairman of Malaysia Airlines, Mohammed Nor Yusof, told a press conference. "The investigation still under way may yet prove to be even longer and more complex than it has been since March 8th [when the plane vanished off radar screens]."

Mr Najib's dramatic announcement confirming that all 239 people on board MH370 had perished has strained already frayed relations between Malaysia and China.
With Chinese accounting for two-thirds of the dead, emotions about Malaysia's handling of the crisis are running high. Dozens of angry relatives, who have accused Malaysian authorities of a bungled initial response to the plane's disappearance during a night flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, threw plastic water bottles at the embassy and scuffled with security guards.
Chanting "Liars" and "Malaysia, give us back our relatives", they tried to storm the building and demanded a meeting with the Malaysian ambassador.
The Chinese President, Xi Jinping, said he was sending a special envoy to Kuala Lumpur, where the government is under pressure to release the data analysis carried out by Inmarsat and experts from Britain's Air Accident Investigation Bureau.
While better weather is forecast for the Southern Ocean today, the loss of a day will make it more difficult for search teams to find and retrieve possible debris spotted by satellites and planes in recent days.
At a press conference, the Malaysian Transport Minister, Hishammuddin Hussein, acknowledged that relatives needed physical proof of the 777's fate. "Until we can find debris and confirm the debris is from MH370, it is very difficult... to have closure for the families," he said.
"We do not know why, we do not know how... the terrible tragedy happened," said the airline's chief executive, Ahmad Jauhari Yahya.
Geoff Dell, an accident investigation expert based at the University of Queensland, told Associated Press that just one piece of wreckage would enable oceanographers to plot where it might have drifted from, helping them determine where the plane went down.

[Lauren Johnson]

Malaysia says there's sealed evidence on MH370 that cannot be made public

[Peter Lemkin]

Malaysia says there's sealed evidence on MH370 that cannot be made public

Quite an admission - if NOT a surprise! Heads will roll - sooner than later [here, I'm talking about for keeping it secret]. They gave a short list of the nature of things that are 'sealed'...but I think that list is actually a lot longer........

....anyway, that rules OUT an 'accident' [such as fire, chance depressurization, etc.], and leaves only deliberate action - by whom or what group or even what nation remains [for now] still a mystery. Its deep. And its political, I'll bet.

[Lauren Johnson]

Malaysia says there's sealed evidence on MH370 that cannot be made public

Quite an admission - if NOT a surprise! Heads will roll - sooner than later [here, I'm talking about for keeping it secret]. They gave a short list of the nature of things that are 'sealed'...but I think that list is actually a lot longer........

....anyway, that rules OUT an 'accident' [such as fire, chance depressurization, etc.], and leaves only deliberate action - by whom or what group or even what nation remains [for now] still a mystery. Its deep. And its political, I'll bet.

Hey, Peter, have you got anything more about the fuel tank thing? Dead end? Disinformation? Just more confusion?

Wait. The antennae on my tin foil hat are starting vibrate. Somethings coming in. Gotta go.

[Peter Lemkin]

Malaysia says there's sealed evidence on MH370 that cannot be made public

Quite an admission - if NOT a surprise! Heads will roll - sooner than later [here, I'm talking about for keeping it secret]. They gave a short list of the nature of things that are 'sealed'...but I think that list is actually a lot longer........

....anyway, that rules OUT an 'accident' [such as fire, chance depressurization, etc.], and leaves only deliberate action - by whom or what group or even what nation remains [for now] still a mystery. Its deep. And its political, I'll bet.

Hey, Peter, have you got anything more about the fuel tank thing? Dead end? Disinformation? Just more confusion?

Wait. The antennae on my tin foil hat are starting vibrate. Somethings coming in. Gotta go.

It seems pretty sure it IS a fire tank [they are in planes in several areas in pairs - contain two chemicals under pressure - are mixed when there is a fire and generates a gas or foam that is a fire suppressant] from an airplane, but there is no way to know from which aircraft from the photo and from the scant information given about it. Many parts of an airliner have specific serial numbers that are kept in a database. I don't know if this part has such and no numbers or identifiers have been given about it at all....not even anything about who found it and where [given as 'near the Maldives' - which is a large group of islands]. To me, it seems too corroded for such a short time at sea [if related to MH flight]....but I don't know what kind of metal it is made of. Now 'down south' they seem to have seen [from satellites] hundreds of things floating and some of the pilots recognize some of them as LIKELY plane parts from images - NONE yet have been pulled out of the sea. One interesting rumor is that submarines ARE operating in that area, but nations don't like to say where their subs are...so mums the word.......

...sure would be INTERESTING to know what the Malay authorities feel they can't ever disclose! I think they totally 'blew it' even making such an admission..... I still find the lack of the cargo manifest highly suspicious - anything from gold bricks to classified weapons systems travel in cargo....sometimes even people.