MH 370: Missing Malaysian Airliner

[Drew Phipps]

From News 6/26/14:

http://www.aol.com/article/2014/06/26/ma...d%3D493693

SYDNEY Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:34am EDT(Reuters) - Malaysia Airlines (MASM.KL) Flight MH370 was most likely on autopilot when it crashed into the Indian Ocean further south than previously thought, Australian officials said on Thursday, as they charted the next phase of a so far fruitless search. The new analysis comes more than 100 days after the Boeing (BA.N) 777, carrying 239 passengers and crew, disappeared on March 8 shortly after taking off from Kuala Lumpur bound for Beijing.

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Investigators say what little evidence they have to work with suggests the plane was deliberately diverted thousands of kilometres from its scheduled route before eventually plunging into the Indian Ocean. The search was narrowed in April after a series of acoustic pings thought to be from the plane's black box recorders were heard along a final arc where analysis of satellite data put its last location.


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Truss said the area was determined after a review of satellite data, early radar information and aircraft performance limits after the plane diverted across the Malaysian peninsula and headed south into one of the remotest areas of the planet. "It is highly, highly likely that the aircraft was on autopilot otherwise it could not have followed the orderly path that has been identified through the satellite sightings," Truss said.

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The next phase of the search is expected to start in August and take a year, covering some 60,000 sq km at a cost of A$60 million ($56 million) or more. The search is already the most expensive in aviation history. The new priority search area is around 2,000 km west of Perth, a stretch of isolated ocean frequently lashed by storm force winds and massive swells.
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In a 55-page report, the Australian Transport Safety Board outlined a how investigators had narrowed down the possible final resting place from thousands of possible routes, while noting the absence of communications and the steady flight path. "Given these observations, the final stages of the unresponsive crew/hypoxia event type appeared to best fit the available evidence for the final period of MH370's flight when it was heading in a generally southerly direction," the ATSB report said. Two vessels, one Chinese and one from Dutch engineering company Fugro (FUGRc.AS), are currently mapping the sea floor along the arc, where depths exceed 5,000 metres in parts. A tender to find a commercial operator to conduct the sea floor search closes on Monday.

[Peter Lemkin]

It good to hear that they've narrowed down the search area to Earth......::::::lilgreenman::. Personally, I don't think looking again in the FIRST [of many] search areas is likely to turn up anything....but it will further degrade outrage and demand for results from the public....until they eventually forget and give up knowing what happened. (some officials have hinted it may take two decades to find the airplane....or that they never will.....)

[David Guyatt]

It will all be discussed in years to come in psywar school, as being a classic operation of deflection.

[Peter Lemkin]

It will all be discussed in years to come in psywar school, as being a classic operation of deflection.

While either 'stealing' the plane [or something in its hold]; or 'sending a message' to some government, if not everyone who flies, was likely the motive - all but forgotten [except to their families] are the lost passengers and crew.....just 'collateral damage' in a bigger 'war', albeit a covert one. I still think Diego Garcia is a likely place it landed....and haven't seen much attention paid to even exploring that enough to rule it out....but no doubt one of the many 'hands' in the matter of 'figuring out' what happened to the plane were also in on making it disappear - this being first class level covert operational stuff.

[Peter Lemkin]

Dave Emory often has interesting takes on events.......not endorsing this - just throwing it out there.....:: http://spitfirelist.com/news/modified-li...light-370/

Dave Emory " For The Record #790 Now, About that Malaysian Airliner ."

Behind the propaganda about the disappearance of Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 being "mysterious," the program notes the evidentiary tributaries running between the pilot of the plane and the Muslim Brotherhood. In turn, Anwar Ibrahim (the pilot's political idol) is deeply connected to the individuals and institutions investigated in the Operation Green Quest raids of 3/20/2002. Grover Norquist's lobbying firm appears to have represented Ibrahim. The program also looks at a strange incident, in which a young Somali boy successfully stashed himself in the wheel well of a jet at San Jose airport. Muslim Brotherhood-linked elements figure in the background of the event. Concluding with the corporatist philosophy of the Muslim Brotherhood, the broadcast examines comparisons between the organization and the GOP.
 Detailed, annotated written description for this program available at: http://spitfirelist.com/for-the-record/f...rliner/
 Dave's website: http://www.spitfirelist.com

[David Guyatt]

Well, this really is news. Emirates Airline boss, Sir Tim Clark arrives at the same conclusion we have here at DPF. MH370 didn't crash in the Indian Ocean, was "under control" to the very end, and that the real story is being covered up.

Obviously, the Indy, being a mainstream newspaper has to throw cold water on the story, and so the words "conspiracy theorists" rolls off the pen of the scribe who wrote the story (Ms. Rose Troup Buchanan - normally her preserve is "online video content", so she's especially qualified to talk of these matters from a position of authority, obviously - amazing how ambition hones ones instinct to adhere to the official story - keep an eye on her future career, I say).

Sir Tim wants to know the full passenger list and hold manifest - which informs us where his suspicions are focused.

MH370: Airline boss claims missing flight did not crash into Indian Ocean



Emirates Airlines boss Sir Tim Clarke believes the missing aircraft was under control to the end - a theory counter to prevalent thinking

ROSE TROUP BUCHANAN

Monday 13 October 2014
The boss of an international airline company has said he believes missing Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 did not go down in the Indian Ocean.

[B][B]Emirates Airlines Sir Tim Clark said to German newspaper Der Spiegel he did not believe the flight was on autopilot when it disappeared, claiming: "MH370 was, in my opinion, under control, probably until the very end".[/B][/B]
[B][B]His comments run counter to prevalent thinking that the aircraft was on autopilot until it ran out of fuel and crashed into the southern Indian Ocean.[/B][/B]

[B][B]"Every single second of that flight needs to be examined up until it, theoretically, ended up in the Indian Ocean - for which they still haven't found a trace, not even a seat cushion," he said.[/B][/B]
[B][B]Sir Tim added: "Our experience tells us that in water incidents, where the aircraft has gone down, there is always something.[/B][/B]
[B][B]"We have not seen a single thing that suggests categorically that this aircraft is where they say it is, apart from this so-called electronic satellite handshake,' which I question as well," the airline boss said.[/B][/B]
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[B][B] Emirates Airlines operates 127 Boeing 777 airplanes more than any other airliner - which is the same model of missing MH370.
Sir Tim said it was the total disappearance of the aeroplane that ignited his suspicions and called for better transparency in the investigation. "I'm totally dissatisfied with what has been coming out of all of this," he said.
In remarks likely to further inflame conspiracy theorists, Sir Tim added: "We need to know who was on the plane in the detail that obviously some people do know. We need to know what was in the hold of the aircraft."

The airline boss also scotched suggestions for improved tracking equipment, saying the Boeing 777 model possessed one of the world's most advanced communications platforms and claimed tracking devices should no longer be under the control of pilots as they currently are.
"Disabling it [the tracker] is no simple thing and our pilots are not trained to do so. But on flight MH370, this thing was somehow disabled, to the degree that the ground tracking capability was eliminated."

The M/V Fugro Discovery, which along with the Malaysian-contracted GO Phoenix, is searching for MH370The latest analysis from the Australian transportation Safety Bureau (ATSB) said the flight went into a slow left turn and spiralled into eh Indian Ocean when its fuel ran out.
It has been seven months since Flight MH370 disappeared with all 239 people on board.
Extensive searches have revealed nothing, with the next phase of the operation to locate the plane now beginning following an extensive mapping process of the ocean floor.
Malaysian Airlines have faced angry accusations from the families of those on board over their handling of the situation.[/B][/B]

[David Guyatt]

Following on from Sir Tim Clark's views in the foregoing post, another former airlines boss claims the US probably shot MH370 down and then covered it up. Interesting too that Marc Dugain was warned off by MI6.

MH370 was 'shot down by the US military', former Proteus Airlines CEO claims

Marc Dugain said it may have been hijacked and flown towards Diego Garcia

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A French former airline director has claimed that the US military may have shot down Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 and covered it up.

Marc Dugain, who headed Proteus Airlines and is an established author, speculated that the Americans may have targeted the aircraft because they feared a September 11-style attack on a military base in the Indian Ocean.
In an article for French magazine Paris Match, he claimed that the Boeing 777 crashed nowhere near where international search teams have been combing the ocean for wreckage, but near an American military base in the British territory of Diego Garcia.

"It's an extremely powerful military base. It's surprising that the Americans have lost all trace of this aircraft. Without getting into conspiracy theories, it is a possibility that the Americans stopped this plane," he told France Inter, according to a translation by The Local.
Mr Dugain asked how "in our technological world" a 63 metre-long object could disappear without a trace, suggesting there must have been a deliberate effort to hide evidence.
The atoll, almost 3,000 miles north-west of Australia, has been used as a significant US military base since the 1970s and is currently home to 1,700 military personnel.

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Many conspiracy theories about Diego Garcia have been aired since the disappearance of MH370 but the US government has repeatedly denied that the plane came anywhere near it.
Mr Dugain cited witnesses in the Maldives as evidence, who reportedly told him they had seen a "huge plane flying at a really low altitude" towards the island bearing the Malaysia Airlines colours.
A Royal Australian Air Force AP-3C Orion, searches for MH370 in the Indian OceanShortly after the aircraft's disappearance on 8 March, with 239 people from 15 countries on board, local media in the Maldives reported that an object believed to be a fire extinguisher from the plane had washed up on a beach in Baarah. The find was never confirmed.
Mr Dugain argued that the MH370 may have been remotely hijacked by hackers and steered towards Diego Garcia, which is far from its planned flight path from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.
To explain the absence of electronic communication as the plane disappeared from radar, he said a fire could have forced the crew to turn off all devices, without damaging the plane's exterior.
A woman writes a message of support and hope for passengers of the missing Malaysia Airlines MH370The official report on MH370 said its passengers most probably died from suffocation as the cabin ran out of oxygen, leaving it to continue on auto-pilot until it ran out of fuel and plunged into the ocean.
No new evidence from within the Boeing 777 has emerged, leaving the Australian Transport Safety Board to compare the flight with previous disasters to draw their conclusion.
Mr Dugain claimed he had been warned by a British intelligence officer of taking "risks" by looking into the fate of MH370.
"Someone knows," he added.

The head of Emirates, the world's largest international airline, is among those who have echoed Mr Dugain's questions about the availability of evidence.
Sir Tim Clark revealed his doubts in October, saying he did not believe "that the information held by some is on the table", and that his electronic engineers believe that even with communication systems switched off, the plane would still be traceable.
Countless conspiracy theories have been floated in the nine months since MH370's disappearance, with several claiming it was shot down either deliberately or by mistake during military exercises.
Others claim it may have flown in the "shadow" of another plane to conceal itself or was downed in a pilot suicide, life insurance scam or botched hijacking.

[Magda Hassan]

No calls from Tony fucking Abbott to go to war against the US for killing Australians on this plane. Some one is not talking and they know what happned.

[Peter Lemkin]

Flight MH370 was Hacked and Shot Down by US Air Force,' Claims Former Airline Boss

By Chris Richards

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Flight MH370 was 'hacked and shot down by US Air Force' claims former airline boss

Mark Dugain believes the American military blasted the missing jetliner out of the sky amid fears it had been hijacked remotely and could be used in a 9/11-style terror attack

Missing Flight MH370 was hacked and then shot down over the Indian Ocean by the US Air Force,' it has been claimed.

The Malaysia Airlines plane was remotely hijacked by unknown persons before being blasted out of the sky by the American military, fearing a terrorist attack similar to 9/11, according to Mark Dugain.
The Frenchman, an author and the ex-head of the now-defunct Proteus Airlines, believes the Boeing 777 was downed by US Air Force assets from the British-controlled Indian Ocean island of Diego Garcia.
Mr Dugain said he had travelled to the Maldives and spoken to locals who claimed to have seen a "huge plane" flying overhead at low altitude in the direction of Diego Garcia.
According to an article penned by Dugan in French weekly magazine Paris Match, one fisherman told him: "I saw a huge plane fly over us at low altitude.
"I saw red and blue stripes (the livery of Malaysia Airlines) on a white background."
Dugain said the man's account was supported by several other locals.




He also wrote how he had met the mayor of Baarah island, who showed him photos of a device seized by the Maldives military after it was found on a beach two weeks after the tragedy.
Dugain claimed the device was a fire extinguisher, citing two aviation experts and a local military officer, and pointed out that the extinguisher must have been empty to have floated.
This, Dugain claimed, was due to it being automatically triggered by a fire, even as all passengers and crew might have died from asphyxiation.
In a separate radio interview, Dugain claimed that a British intelligence officer had warned him of the "risks" in investigating MH370's disappearance, suggesting instead that he "let time do its work".
Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 disappeared on March 8 while en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing with 239 passengers and crew on board.
The search for the vanished jet is focused on the Indian Ocean off the coast of Australia.
Officials had hoped to conclude the mission by May 2015, however a technical problem affecting equipment on board one of the search ships may mean that is no longer achievable.

[Drew Phipps]

I concede that this guy's idea is possible, but why would the US bother to shoot MH 370 down after the "unknown hackers" had steered it a) into an area where it couldn't be used as a weapon, and b) into an area from which there was no choice but to run out of fuel and crash in the ocean anyhow?

(Don't get me wrong, I think that remote hacking is one of the things that actually happened. Just don't think the shooting down part did.)