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Carsten Wiethoff Wrote:As of June 25, 2013 it is said that Kerry met Bandar bin Sultan in Jeddah (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/2...ZD20130625)
Quote:In Jeddah, Kerry held discussions with Prince Saud and Saudi intelligence chief Prince Bandar bin Sultan, who coordinates the kingdom's efforts to topple Assad.
The discussions included Washington's plans for providing direct military support to General Salim Idriss of the Supreme Military Council, the military wing of Syria's main civilian opposition group.
See also http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/appt/2013/06/211105.htm
Yeah, I've seen the odd press release about meetings but no video of him since the supposed bombing.
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Carsten Wiethoff Wrote:As of June 25, 2013 it is said that Kerry met Bandar bin Sultan in Jeddah (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/2...ZD20130625)
Quote:In Jeddah, Kerry held discussions with Prince Saud and Saudi intelligence chief Prince Bandar bin Sultan, who coordinates the kingdom's efforts to topple Assad.
The discussions included Washington's plans for providing direct military support to General Salim Idriss of the Supreme Military Council, the military wing of Syria's main civilian opposition group.
See also http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/appt/2013/06/211105.htm
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It is universally held that the unicorn is a supernatural being and of auspicious omen; so say the odes, the annals, the biographies of worthies, and other texts whose authority is unimpeachable. Even village women and children know that the unicorn is a lucky sign. But this animal does not figure among the barnyard animals, it is not always easy to come across, it does not lend itself to zoological classification. Nor is it like the horse or bull, the wolf or deer. In such circumstances we may be face to face with a unicorn and not know for sure that we are. We know that a certain animal with a mane is a horse and that a certain animal with horns is a bull. We do not know what the unicorn looks like.
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"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."
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Just speculation, but it could be the Saudi's are 'doing a Howard Hughes', who was reported to be alive and well LONG after he had died [or been killed] - as was well known to the CIA which had kidnapped and moved him and surrounded him with CIA/Mormon minders and 'security'.......
S.A. is not the most transparent of nations; nor one of the most democratic...not even close on either - perhaps one of the least.
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cross posted from Acronym TV
It is growing increasingly possible that public outcry might make the Imperialforce of American Exceptionalism, with its humanitarian war sights set onSyria, back down.
by Acronym TV
New evidence is surfacing about just who might be behind the chemical attacks, with a credible view published by a journalist with 20 years middle East pointing toevidence that the Saudis could have supplied the Rebel forces with chemicalweapons and, in the untrained hands of the rebels, the Chemical Weaponsdetonated in a tragic accident. This, of course, flies in the face of thethesis put forward by Obama, who claims that the Assad regime was so brazenlyviolating international norms that he needed to be dethroned, or at the veryleast, sent a very strong message visa vie hellfire missiles reigning down froma US lead coalition of the willing. That the drone commander in chief does notsee drone strikes in countries that have not declared war on US to be somethingwithin the set of acceptable international norms should be an impeachableoffense in and of itself. Now that the U.S. has lost the leading lap-dog (theU.K.) in it's coalition of the willing standing at the ready to march in lockstep with whatever our next move on the Armageddon chessboard that is theMiddle East might be, what will congress do when they reconvene on September 9[SUP]th[/SUP]?
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Pawning-Off Old Photos of 2008 Putin/Bandar Meeting As NewIs Bandar Disfigured?Posted on August 4, 2013 by therearenosunglasses
[The past few days the Western media has been falling all over itself, trying to pass-off old 2008 photos of Putin and Bandar as genuine, trying to validate the claim that the Saudi spy lord really did visit Putin recently. Despite Riyadh's claims that he has been jetting all over the world trying to make the Obama/Bush vision of a "greater Middle East" a reality, Prince Bandar has not been seen or photographed since his attempted assassination on 31 July, 2012. If there were not some physical or psychological reason for hiding the face of this famous Kremlin visitor, then normal diplomatic protocol and the need to confirm to the world that the evil prince is still alive would create photo opportunities, just as in his earlier visits. Does Bandar bin Sultan have all of his arms and legs? Does he have both eyes? Is his face disfigured? Is he even alive?
Even though this most recently purported visit to Moscow was reported by the Kremlin press, without any physical confirmation that he was there, there is no real reason to believe the Russian report either, without the documentation. This would not be the first time that Putin has played along with Washington's schemes. There was no apparent, logical reason for the Saudi troublemaker to go to Putin (SEE: Is Bandar Bush In Moscow Trying To Sell Putin His Plan To Cannabalize the Syrian Resistance?), Bandar's plot revolves around bringing into Syria thousands of outsiders, and arming them to fight Al-Asad under the "al-Qaeda" banner, precisely the things that Putin is most set against. If this event had not been staged for the benefit of the public, then it would have all taken place covertly, under the radar of Western popular opinion. Both sides in this geopolitical tussle seem to want us to believe the report, along with its back story, that something big is in the works for both Syria and the region. As usual, whatever it is, it will be something very bad.]
File photo of Russia's President Vladimir Putin ® and Secretary General of Saudi Arabia's National Security Council Prince Bandar Bin Sultan during their meeting in Moscow, in August 2007. AFP PHOTO
http://visualrian.ru/en/site/feature/18729/
#338027 Vladimir Putin (right) meets with Prince Bandar bin Sultan bin Abdulaziz Al-Saud, secretary-general of Saudi Arabia's National Security Council, in Astrakhan, September 4, 2008.
#338025 Vladimir Putin meets with Bandar Al-Saud, secretary-general of Saudi Arabia's National Security Council, in Astrakhan 09/04/2008
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The prince Bandar Bin Sultan, Secretary General of the National Security Counsel and head of the Saudi Intelligence Agency, went to Russia, on the 31st of July. He was hosted, not only by his russian counterparts, but also by the president Vladimir Poutine.The Prince Bandar Bin Sultan is today the most powerful man is Saudi Arabia. He was grievously wounded in an assault, committed as a reply to the assassination of the Syrian military leaders, in July 2012, and we had by mistake announced his probable death. He had disapeared for seven months, before reappearing at a royal ceremony. His beard was thick and could neither stand up nor speak publicly. He slowly recovered, regaining control of the kingdom, and of the Syrian war.Discussions were held about the situation in the muslim world.The prince did not meet with the press, who was only informed of his visit once it was over.
http://www.voltairenet.org/article179695.html
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That explains that, then.
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Today, Bandar 'Bush' was removed and replaced as the Saudi Intelligence Chief. It seems he was not doing the requisite job vis-a-vis Syria. Oh, well, he still has his mansions in Aspen and many other places.
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