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Polish government knew about CIA prisons in Poland
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What ever happened to the UK inquires on the same matter - secret rendition using UK territory? It has gone right off the radar. As they hoped it would I am sure.

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Miller government knew about CIA prisons in Poland?
Created: 15.04.2009 16:25

The government under the premiership of Leszek Miller (2001-4) knew about the alleged CIA detention facility in Poland, the existence of which has been denied by successive governments.

The Rzeczpospolita daily front pages what is presented as an ‘exclusive’: that secret CIA prisons located in Szymany, northeastern Poland, were not only known about by Miller’s government but that they actively covered them up.

Miller, when confronted with the allegations by TV journalists before - the accusations are not new - described them as, ""a fairy tale."

Rzeczpospolita writes that the existence of the prison has been verified, not only by its own reporters, but also by public broadcaster TVP Info journalists who are in possession of documents that undermine the stance of Polish authorities, which have claimed that they never cooperated with the CIA to this extent.

TVP Info and Rzeczpospolita also report that they have found a witness who had seen blindfolded and handcuffed prisoners being taken out of a plane which landed at Szymany airport.

Rzeczpospolita claims to have a source inside the Polish military who maintains that there was indeed a CIA base bear the Szymany airbase, and who says that the “Americans have something to thank Poland for.”

Reports by Polish journalists that documents exist confirming the prisons in Poland are not new, however, and even the above quote that Americans have something to thank Poland for has featured in earlier stories made by other publications.

In September 2008 Gazeta Wyborcza ran a report stating that Polish prosecutors obtained a top secret memorandum from either late 2005 or early 2006 showing that a CIA prison existed from around 2003 onwards and closed in 2005.

Gazeta Wyborcza then quoted unnamed sources saying that they had seen the document, but who did not explicitly say that the prison served as a holding center for al-Qaeda terrorist suspects.

Gazeta reported that according to the document the secret prison was set up after the US and Poland signed an accord in 2002 to combat terrorism, following the 9/11 attacks in the US.

Flight logs

Today’s reports in Rzeczpospolita and TVP Info rehash information already made in the report by the Council of Europe - Secret detentions and illegal transfers of detainees involving Council of Europe member states: second report - and published back in June 2007.Rzeczpospolita and TVP Info say that on 5 December 2002 at 14:56 a Gulfstream aircraft numbered N63MU landed at Szymany airport carrying CIA operatives who had arrived to set up the secret base at the small town of Stare Kiejkuty, 20 km from the airstrip, in buildings which had housed a secret intelligence unit No 2669, unofficially the Intelligence Personnel Training Center

Later, another Gulfstream aircraft numbered N379P began flying in and out of Szymany from the 8 February 2003 when it touched down on a flight from Rabat, Morocco.

The information on the aircraft was based on flight logs which have been public for sometime and have never been disputed.

The new reports allege, however, that according to Eurocontrol, an institution which directs plane traffic, a gulfstream N379P flew from Tashkent to Glasgow on 31st July. In reality on 30th July the plane, flying from Kabul, landed in Szymany, where it was refueled. Rzeczpospolita claims to have a sale invoice of the fuel used for the flight.

Successive governments have denied any knowledge of the CIA ‘black sites’ in Poland since the accusations were first made by Human Rights Watch late in 2005. The present prime minister, Donald Tusk, earlier announced that he had asked the Public Prosecutor to launch a special investigation to look into the matter.
http://www.polskieradio.pl/thenews/forei...ns_in.html
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Khalid Shaikh Mohammed – I was held in Poland
Created: 09.04.2009 12:27

A leaked report by the Red Cross, written in 2007, has renewed calls for an independent investigation into CIA renditions centers, including one allegedly in Poland.

The New York Review of Books has released the full 40-page report drawn up by the International Committee of the Red Cross in 2007 entitled ‘ICRC Report on the Treatment of Fourteen ‘High Value Detainees’ in CIA Custody’ in which one of the prisoners claims that he was held in a ‘CIA prison’ in Poland.

The detainee, Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, claims that he was held in Pakistan and Afghanistan and then transported to Guantanamo Bay via Poland.

Mohammed, who pleaded guilty to a US military commission on 11 February 2008 when charged with war crimes and murder, is, according to the 9/11 Commission Report, the “principle architect of the 9/11 attacks.”

Captured in Rawalpindi, Pakistan on 1 March 2003, Mohammed was held in CIA custody in secret prisons before the US government announced in September 2006 that he had been moved to Guantanamo Bay.

Snow on the ground

Mohammed claims in the report that, after leaving Afghanistan, he arrived in a country with snow on the ground.

“I think the country was Poland. I think this because on one occasion a water bottle was brought to me without the label removed. It had an e-mail address ending in ‘.pl.’ The central-heating system was an old style one that I would only expect to see in countries of the former communist system,” reads Mohammed’s full testimony.

Mohammed also says in the report that, under torture, he gave a lot of false information during the harshest period of his interrogation.

"I’m sure that the false information I was forced to invent in order to make the ill-treatment stop wasted a lot of their time and led to several false red-alerts being placed in the US," he said.

The facility where Mohammed was allegedly held in Poland was reportedly near the Szczytno-Szymany Airport in northern Poland, though successive governments and officials have denied the center ever existed.

The European Parliament released a report in November 2006 based on an investigation committee, led by Claudio Fava, which claimed that CIA planes landed and took off from the northern Polish airport. The report also claims that an area near the airport was a site involved in the CIA’s network of secret prisons.

In June 2007, Aleksander Kwasniewski, president from 1995-2005, stated that, “There were no secret prisons in Poland.”

‘Poland provided all CIA needed’

But a Council of Europe report headed by Dick Marty alleged that the CIA prison was known about by Kwasniewski, and was operated in collaboration with agents from the now disbanded Military Intelligence Agency (WSI). One anonymous source told the 9,000 page report: “Listen, Poland agreed top down [to the prisons] …from the president, yes….to provide the CIA all it needed.”

One source within the CIA told Marty that Poland was chosen, alongside Romania, as a site for the detention center as Warsaw is always eager to help out the US.


“We have an extraordinary relationship with Poland. My experience is that if Poles can help us, they will,” said another unnamed source.


Poland negotiated its agreement with the CIA, says the report, in late 2002, early 2003.

“We have established that the first [prisoners] were transferred to Poland in the first half of 2003,” says Marty.

In September 2008, the private Radio Zet claimed that members of the Law and Justice led government were shown a report when they took power detailing the existence of the CIA prison.

The author was the then education minister and vice-prime minister Roman Giertych, who was heading a committee on the activities of Poland’s secret services at the time.


His report, written sometime in 2006, confirmed allegations made by Human Rights Watch back in late 2005 and was seen by the then justiv=ce minister Zbigniew Ziobro, state prosecutor Janusz Kaczmarek and special services coordinator Zbigniew Wasserman. (pg/mmj)
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Polands CIA 'Black Sites'

Submitted by jimstaro on Wed, 2010-09-08 21:46 Shedding Light on Black Sites
7th September 2010 - At the end of July 2010 the Polish Office of Border Security gave a number of recently-released documents to the Poland-based Helsinki Foundation for Human Rights (HFHR), which for the first time provided details of transported passengers, including possible terrorism suspects, on seven of the CIA flights to a secret prison in Poland between December 2002 and September 2003.

The documents disclosed information about the secret prison at Szymany in the northeast of Poland, a so-called “black site”, and added information about the program in Romania.
On 9 August the Polish daily newspaper Gazeta Wyborcza published an interview with the head of the legal division of the HFHR, Adam Bodnar. The journalist asked if Polish prosecutors are considering charging the highest ranked officials for the secret prisons that they allegedly allowed the CIA to set up in Poland when the War on Terror was at its height. These include former President Aleksander Kwaśniewski, former Prime Minister Leszek Miller, ex-Minister of the Interior and Administration Krzysztof Janik, and Zbigniew Siemiatkowski, the former head of the Polish Intelligence Agency. {read more}
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Quote:The documents disclosed information about the secret prison at Szymany in the northeast of Poland, a so-called “black site”, and added information about the program in Romania.
On 9 August the Polish daily newspaper Gazeta Wyborcza published an interview with the head of the legal division of the HFHR, Adam Bodnar. The journalist asked if Polish prosecutors are considering charging the highest ranked officials for the secret prisons that they allegedly allowed the CIA to set up in Poland when the War on Terror was at its height. These include former President Aleksander Kwaśniewski, former Prime Minister Leszek Miller, ex-Minister of the Interior and Administration Krzysztof Janik, and Zbigniew Siemiatkowski, the former head of the Polish Intelligence Agency.

For all their sins, which are many, I note that neither Kaczyński twin is on that list - not the dead one, and not his surviving brother.
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US refuses cooperation with Poland's CIA black site' probe


28.12.2010 13:40
[Image: 2010122803241447_240.jpg]A giant billboard has appeared on Ulica Żydowska in Poznan, designed by the Abnormals.org artistic group declaring "Welcome to Poland where they torture people."
The U.S. Department of Justice has rejected a request from prosecutors in Warsaw for assistance in the investigation into the alleged CIA prisons in Poland, where captives claim they were tortured.

On 18 March, the Prosecutor's Office of Appeal in Warsaw filed a motion for legal assistance from the US Department of Justice into the probe.



On 7 October, reports the PAP news agency, the US informed prosecutors that the motion had been rejected on the basis of the international Agreement on Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters and that the U.S. authorities consider the matter "to be closed".

According to the agreement, a country has the right to refuse to provide legal assistance if the execution of the request would encroach on this country's security or another interest of this country.

The revelation that the US will not be cooperating with the investigation into the alleged black site, thought to have been in northern Poland near the Szymany air base, comes after a second man followed al-Qaeda suspect Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri in asking prosecutors in Warsaw to look into his case.

"According to the information we have, Abu Zubaydah was one of those people detained and interrogated by the CIA somewhere on the territory of Poland," Polish lawyer Bartlomiej Jankowski told journalists in the Polish capital earlier this month.

Both Zubaydah and Nashiri are both currently being held at the U.S. military jail at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba.

Despite denials from former president Aleksander Kwasniewski and former prime minister Leszek Miller that they knew of the CIA activity in Poland, air traffic control in warsaw published a report stating that at least six CIA flights had landed at a disused military air base in northern Poland in 2003.

Two aircraft, a Boeing 737 and a Gulfstream V, were US-registered and previously known to be part of CIA operations. (pg/mg)
http://www.thenews.pl/international/arty...probe.html
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Magda Hassan Wrote:US refuses cooperation with Poland's CIA black site' probe


28.12.2010 13:40
[Image: 2010122803241447_240.jpg]A giant billboard has appeared on Ulica Żydowska in Poznan, designed by the Abnormals.org artistic group declaring "Welcome to Poland where they torture people."
The U.S. Department of Justice has rejected a request from prosecutors in Warsaw for assistance in the investigation into the alleged CIA prisons in Poland, where captives claim they were tortured.

On 18 March, the Prosecutor's Office of Appeal in Warsaw filed a motion for legal assistance from the US Department of Justice into the probe.



On 7 October, reports the PAP news agency, the US informed prosecutors that the motion had been rejected on the basis of the international Agreement on Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters and that the U.S. authorities consider the matter "to be closed".

According to the agreement, a country has the right to refuse to provide legal assistance if the execution of the request would encroach on this country's security or another interest of this country.

The revelation that the US will not be cooperating with the investigation into the alleged black site, thought to have been in northern Poland near the Szymany air base, comes after a second man followed al-Qaeda suspect Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri in asking prosecutors in Warsaw to look into his case.

"According to the information we have, Abu Zubaydah was one of those people detained and interrogated by the CIA somewhere on the territory of Poland," Polish lawyer Bartlomiej Jankowski told journalists in the Polish capital earlier this month.

Both Zubaydah and Nashiri are both currently being held at the U.S. military jail at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba.

Despite denials from former president Aleksander Kwasniewski and former prime minister Leszek Miller that they knew of the CIA activity in Poland, air traffic control in warsaw published a report stating that at least six CIA flights had landed at a disused military air base in northern Poland in 2003.

Two aircraft, a Boeing 737 and a Gulfstream V, were US-registered and previously known to be part of CIA operations. (pg/mg)
http://www.thenews.pl/international/arty...probe.html

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Poland ex-spy boss 'charged over alleged CIA secret prison'

A former head of Poland's foreign intelligence service faces charges of illegal detention and use of corporal punishment at an alleged secret CIA "black site" used to house high-ranking terrorism suspects.

[Image: spyafp_2178565b.jpg]Zbigniew Siemiatkowski, former head of Poland's intelligence services Photo: AFP







By Matthew Day, Warsaw

2:34PM BST 27 Mar 2012

Zbigniew Siemiatowski confirmed to Gazeta Wyborcza, a Polishnewspaper, that prosecutors had charged him as part of their long-running investigation into a secret detention centre in eastern Poland used by the CIA from 2002 to 2003 for suspects in transit to Guantanamo Bay, but said he refused to co-operate.

"While in the prosecutor's office I refused to answer questions and I shall continue to do so at every stage of the proceedings, including in court," Mr Siemiatowski told the paper.

Investigators allege the spy boss exceeded his powers and breached international law through the use of "unlawful deprivation of liberty" and "corporal punishment" against prisoners of war.

A spokesman for the prosecutor's office refused to confirm the charges owing to state secrecy.

The paper also claimed that Colonel Andrzej Derlatka, then second in command at the foreign intelligence agency and responsible for co-operation with Washington, will face similar charges.


Gazeta Wyborcza explained that the cases against the two are based on documents released to prosecutors by the foreign intelligence agency detailing links with the CIA in the first years of Washington's proclaimed "war on terror".
The case brought against the ex-spy chief makes Mr Siemiatowski the first Polish official to face the possibility of trial over the "black site" scandal since an investigation into allegations that the CIA had operated a base in Poland in contravention to Polish law started in 2008.
Despite repeated denials from former Polish government ministers about the existence of the base a Council of Europe report said Warsaw permitted the CIA to open a secret holding pen on a military base in Stare Klejkuty, in north-east Poland, in December 2002 for "high-value detainees".
Classified as "passengers" for bureaucratic purposes the prisoners were apparently flown into a nearby civilian airport on non-military aircraft. They were then taken to the base where they were subject to "enhanced interrogation" techniques.
One of prisoners, Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, a Saudi national wanted by the CIA on suspicion of involvement in the bombing of the USS Cole in Aden harbour in 2000, has claimed he was threatened with a pistol during his time in Poland while on another occasion an interrogator scared him by switching on an electric drill.
A Polish intelligence agency source quoted by Gazeta Wyborcza said Poland only provided transport to a villa on the base, which was "off limits to Poles".
The charges brought against Mr Siemiatowski could place more pressure on Leszek Miller, Poland's prime minister when the base was apparently operational. Rumours of prosecutor's preparing a case against the politician strengthened in the wake of the latest revelations, and prompted Mr Miller to issue another denial over the base's existence.
"According to my knowledge, and as I have told you many times before, there were no CIA prisons in Poland," he said at a press conference.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...rison.html




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Video here
A Polish official says that prosecutors have a construction order that proves the CIA wanted a cage for terror suspects built at a secret 'black site' prison inside Poland.
Senator Jozef Pinior claims Krakow prosecutors have a document that shows a local contractor was asked to build a cage at Stare Kiekuty, a Polish army based used as a CIA prison for al Qaeda terror suspects in 2002 and 2003."In a state with rights," Pinior told the Polish paper Gazeta Wyborcza, "people in prison are not kept in cages." He said a cage was "non-standard equipment" for a prison, but standard "if torture was used there."Asked if he was sure the cage was for humans, he said, "What was it for? Exotic birds?" He said he has not seen the construction order, but that the Krakow prosecutor's office, which is investigating the prison, has a copy of it.This week Gazeta Wyborcza reported that the prosecutor's office also allegedly has a signed order from Zbigniew Siemiatkowski, the then-head of Polish intelligence, authorizing the creation of the black site. A source told the paper that the agreement has a space intended for an American signature, but that the Americans did not sign the document "because they do not want to sign documents inconsistent with their own Constitution and international law."[Image: abc_gma_ross_091119_wl.jpg]
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Siemiatkowski did not confirm or deny the existence of the agreement, but said he could not discuss anything he might have signed because it would be classified.Gazeta Wyborcza reported in March that Siemiatkowski had been charged with permitting the corporal punishment of prisoners of war. Siematkowski has acknowledged publicly that he is under investigation.Alexander Kwasniewski and Leszek Miller, who were president and prime minister at the time it was allegedly used as a CIA prison, have denied the existence of the Stare Kiekuty black site. Sen. Pinior said he presented his evidence "with regret, because I always valued [Kwasniewski's] presidency."Several terror suspects, including Abu Zubaydah, have said they were tortured at the Polish site prior to their relocation to Guantanamo. One suspect claims a gun and a power drill were pointed at his head during his interrogation.After Poland launched its official investigation of the Stare Kiekuty site, President Bronislaw Komorowski said the probe was needed because "the reputation of Poland is at stake."ABC News previously revealed the location of another CIA prison at a former riding academy outside Vilnius, Lithuania. In 2006, President Bush acknowledged that the U.S. had used "black site" prisons in foreign countries, and said many of the suspects who had been detained there were then moved to Guantanamo Bay. While denying that the U.S. employed torture, he said that the U.S. had used an "alternative set of procedures" to interrogate prisoners.The CIA declined to comment to ABC News on the reported black site in Poland or on Senator Pinior's allegations about a cage.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/cia-wanted...-V8Exdo2Vo
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November 11, 2005 -- BREAKING NEWS U.S. "crating" prisoners and flying them around Eastern Europe in C-130 prison planes

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November 11, 2005 -- BREAKING NEWS U.S. "crating" prisoners and flying them around Eastern Europe in C-130 prison planes. Although The Washington Post failed to report on the details of CIA (now Pentagon-run) "black" interrogation sites in eastern Europe, WMR is able to report on the particulars of the covert operation. According to a well-placed intelligence source who served in eastern Europe, prisoners from Iraq and elsewhere have been flown from airport to airport in eastern Europe on board C-130 planes. Placed in what were described as "dog-sized" cages, the covert operation became fully operational after the disclosures of prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib, Baghdad and Camp Bucca, Umm Qasr, Iraq. The "crated" prisoners were either removed from the C-130s for interrogation at Soviet-era detention centers that were in various states of repair or were kept on board the aircraft and subjected to brutal interrogation by U.S. and/or contractor personnel, who, in some cases, were ex-members of the Soviet KGB, Stasi, and other eastern European security services. C-130s are used because of their short take-off and landing capabilities on short air strips located in remote regions.The source, who spoke on a condition of anonymity, witnessed the ground work being laid for the "black sites" in a number of countries and locations. These include the Taszar airbase in south-central Hungary, near the town of Pecs; Lv'iv, Ukraine; Szczynto-Szymany, Poland; Skopje, Macedonia; Mihail Kogalniceanu airbase in Romania; Tbilisi, Republic of Georgia; Shkoder, Albania; Burgas, Bulgaria; and the Markuleshti air base in Moldova.Crating prisoners hearkens back to the Vietnam War when the U.S. used "tiger cages" installed by the French on Con Son island off Vietnam to hold political prisoners. The U.S. used the tiger cages to detain and torture suspected Viet Cong sympathizers. Many of the prisoners were merely innocent Buddhists and anti-war activists. The flying of caged prisoners from airport to airport on chartered C-130s is yet another indication of what military judge advocate general (JAG) lawyers have cited as the Bush administration's penchant for placing prisoners in "law free zones."
[Image: cage.jpg]Crating prisoners for Eastern European "frequent flyer torture" -- The latest outrage from an administration that brought us white phosphorous chemical weapons, sodomizing teen prisoners, and naked human pyramids.






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Poland Probe Reveals More on Secret US Torture Site

The Jig Is Up, but US Fighting to Keep Details Secret

by Jason Ditz, August 13, 2012

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Poland's efforts to probe the full details of the CIA-run "black site" hidden on the campus of a northern intelligence academy are still slow going, but there is no real doubt remaining that the previous Polish government conspired to allow the US to operate an illegal torture facility on their territory, and then sought to keep it secret.
[Image: poland.gif]The real question is, what is the current Polish government going to do about it. Prosecutorscontinue to work feverishly to build a case against officials involved in the scandal, former Interior Minister Zbigniew Siemiatkowski is already charged, and plenty more could be coming.
One would think that's "game over" for the US, which has been caught out in the humiliating scandal, but is still fighting against Polish prosecutors trying to keep the details of their crimes "classified."
The broad strokes are known. The site was used to "disappear" detainees and to torture them. The US had a special "cage" brought in for some unknown reason. What Polish contractors involved in the facility's operation knew, when they knew it, and perhaps most importantly what Polish officials were given in return for violating Polish, EU and international law are the big questions still to be revealed.
http://news.antiwar.com/2012/08/13/polan...ture-site/

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