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David Guyatt Wrote:Magda Hassan Wrote:David Guyatt Wrote:Way to go Pete! The wayback machine did the trick. I'm now uploading this document here for preservation.
Bill Tyree didn't spell the name of Operation Amadeus correctly, so it is worth noting that the name Amadeus almost certainly connects to the Freemasonic initiate Mozart who composed the symbolic opera The Magic Flute, that is partly to do with the Greek myth of Orpheus who rather intriguingly has more to do with the lyre than a flute - which directs us indirectly to the story of the "Watchers" / Nephilim of the Book of Enoch.
Bill Tyree reveals that Operation Amadeus started life in Nazi Germany as part of the SS/US negotiations via Allen Dulles and SS General Karl Wolf for the surrender and post WWII use of the SS stationed in Italy to be accommodated and used in Latin America. Elsewhere I recall that Wolf referenced the use of the word "Orpheus" to Dulles during a private meeting in regard to these negotiations (this was in an unpublished book by Peter Dale Scott about Operation Sunrise). so there very clearly are matters of some importance going on that we the uninitiated are not aware of. In Latin America, the rescued SS set up smuggling routes for all sorts of illicit things, including the stockpile of SS morphine.
But that is probably more information than is required - although the above operational name wouldn't have been chosen by chance.
PS, the file is too large to upload so anyone interested can download it from the payback machine page HERE
I downloaded a copy too. Might upload it to Pirate Bay to get it out there more and so it doesn't get lost again. Maybe to Wikileaks and Cryptome too. Do I have your permission David?
Yes, of course, Maggie. I'm really grateful.
Glad waybackmachine worked. Scrbd would be a good place for it, IMO. Pirate Bay is closely watched - so do it with a VPN upload.
The much touted Operation Sunrise was mostly a hoax. It, at best, it saved fighting [only in Italy] for two weeks - not really much to brag about. It was for other purposes, IMO, including the more formal [if secret] OSS [later CIA] - Nazi connections of persons and sub-organizations - as well as deals between them for all sorts of things.....but that is a matter for another thread.
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I've sent it to Peter P at Wikispooks and John Young at Cryptome. I've made it a torrent and try to upload tomorrow.
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Peter Lemkin Wrote:David Guyatt Wrote:Magda Hassan Wrote:David Guyatt Wrote:Way to go Pete! The wayback machine did the trick. I'm now uploading this document here for preservation.
Bill Tyree didn't spell the name of Operation Amadeus correctly, so it is worth noting that the name Amadeus almost certainly connects to the Freemasonic initiate Mozart who composed the symbolic opera The Magic Flute, that is partly to do with the Greek myth of Orpheus who rather intriguingly has more to do with the lyre than a flute - which directs us indirectly to the story of the "Watchers" / Nephilim of the Book of Enoch.
Bill Tyree reveals that Operation Amadeus started life in Nazi Germany as part of the SS/US negotiations via Allen Dulles and SS General Karl Wolf for the surrender and post WWII use of the SS stationed in Italy to be accommodated and used in Latin America. Elsewhere I recall that Wolf referenced the use of the word "Orpheus" to Dulles during a private meeting in regard to these negotiations (this was in an unpublished book by Peter Dale Scott about Operation Sunrise). so there very clearly are matters of some importance going on that we the uninitiated are not aware of. In Latin America, the rescued SS set up smuggling routes for all sorts of illicit things, including the stockpile of SS morphine.
But that is probably more information than is required - although the above operational name wouldn't have been chosen by chance.
PS, the file is too large to upload so anyone interested can download it from the payback machine page HERE
I downloaded a copy too. Might upload it to Pirate Bay to get it out there more and so it doesn't get lost again. Maybe to Wikileaks and Cryptome too. Do I have your permission David?
Yes, of course, Maggie. I'm really grateful.
Glad waybackmachine worked. Scrbd would be a good place for it, IMO. Pirate Bay is closely watched - so do it with a VPN upload.
The much touted Operation Sunrise was mostly a hoax. It, at best, it saved fighting [only in Italy] for two weeks - not really much to brag about. It was for other purposes, IMO, including the more formal [if secret] OSS [later CIA] - Nazi connections of persons and sub-organizations - as well as deals between them for all sorts of things.....but that is a matter for another thread.
Yes, it seemed more to focus on the preservation of elements of the Gestapo and SS for use in the cold war.
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David Guyatt Wrote:Doug, please be aware that I'm not trying to steal your thunder and, indeed, would welcome further posts and info from you.
However, since Bill Tyrone forms part of this thread, I though I would post the sealed affidavit of Dee Ferdinand (nee Carone), the daughter of the late Colonel Albert Carone. Col. Carone was simultaneously, prior to his death/murder, a made man of the Genovese mafia crime family, a New York cop, a serving officer in the US Army (intelligence and counter-intell) and a CIA operator. He worked for Ollie North. It makes for fascinating reading.
Good stuff. This is exactly the kind of info I was hoping for. I'd be interested to see if there is still a working beacon system which allows safe passage into the US, without being disturbed by customs. Considering CIA planes are following that exact route, from Andros to West Palm Beach, and considering the infrastructure at AUTEC, it seems plausible that the Watchtower route could still be active.
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That thar is an interesting document, which I just downloaded and read from the waybackmachine. Is that William Casey Court Deposition legit? I know the facts are true, just hard to believe he'd admit such - as that would subject him to criminal prosecution - if we had a real justice system....::laughingdog:: ....which reminds me of his 'unfortunate' and well-timed brain tumor/ death.
Quote:Hours before Casey was scheduled to testify before Congress related to his knowledge of Iran-Contra he was reported to have been rendered incapable of speech, and was soon hospitalized and a 'bit' of his brain (said to be a tumor) removed. He died a few months later - never regaining his ability to speak or remember much.
When talking and considering Iran-Contra, one must keep in mind, IMHO, that it was much more than just illegal guns for illegal drugs - it was also the early stages of finalizing COG - first fully implemented on 9-11 (as far as we know), but was then called Rex-84 and being worked on by North and others. It was a window into the parallel/secret governance structure - the one that REALLY calls the shots (often literally)!~
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Some really great info in this thread, all of which fits perfectly into the bigger picture. Time to do a bit of digging.
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Doug Fisher Wrote:David Guyatt Wrote:Doug, please be aware that I'm not trying to steal your thunder and, indeed, would welcome further posts and info from you.
However, since Bill Tyrone forms part of this thread, I though I would post the sealed affidavit of Dee Ferdinand (nee Carone), the daughter of the late Colonel Albert Carone. Col. Carone was simultaneously, prior to his death/murder, a made man of the Genovese mafia crime family, a New York cop, a serving officer in the US Army (intelligence and counter-intell) and a CIA operator. He worked for Ollie North. It makes for fascinating reading.
Good stuff. This is exactly the kind of info I was hoping for. I'd be interested to see if there is still a working beacon system which allows safe passage into the US, without being disturbed by customs. Considering CIA planes are following that exact route, from Andros to West Palm Beach, and considering the infrastructure at AUTEC, it seems plausible that the Watchtower route could still be active.
I have a vague memory that says the beacons were removed at the end of the operation, but I can't remember where I came across this tidbit now, I'm afraid.
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Peter Lemkin Wrote:That thar is an interesting document, which I just downloaded and read from the waybackmachine. Is that William Casey Court Deposition legit? I know the facts are true, just hard to believe he'd admit such - as that would subject him to criminal prosecution - if we had a real justice system....::laughingdog:: ....which reminds me of his 'unfortunate' and well-timed brain tumor/ death.
Quote:Hours before Casey was scheduled to testify before Congress related to his knowledge of Iran-Contra he was reported to have been rendered incapable of speech, and was soon hospitalized and a 'bit' of his brain (said to be a tumor) removed. He died a few months later - never regaining his ability to speak or remember much.
When talking and considering Iran-Contra, one must keep in mind, IMHO, that it was much more than just illegal guns for illegal drugs - it was also the early stages of finalizing COG - first fully implemented on 9-11 (as far as we know), but was then called Rex-84 and being worked on by North and others. It was a window into the parallel/secret governance structure - the one that REALLY calls the shots (often literally)!~
Can't really comment Pete. Other than to note that the opening part, where he names a young German soldier "Gunther" probably refers to Gunther Russbacher, who claimed that he came from WWII Germany. Gunther claimed a great many intriguing things and although Jan knows him a great deal better than me, I was in contact with him over my WWII black market gold story and at that time (late 1990's) he was still involved in off-the-books black operations for the CIA -- and his jilted wife sent me documents to authenticate that and other things.
Anyway, I got that doc from Bill and posted it on my website verbatim. What I do remember is that Bill sent me an awful lot of documents and papers over a period of several months and that he knew what he was talking about. But I agree that it is a strange thing for Casey to do, if he did it, that is? He was one tricky SOB.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge. Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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