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Morales assassins: Bolivia gang "fought in Balkans"
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At last a bit of information of the employer of the Irishman.
Dwyer in Bolivia on 'training course'



CONOR LALLY, Crime CorrespondentMichael Dwyer, the 24-year-old Co Tipperary man shot dead by police in Bolivia, travelled to the country from Ireland last November with a group of up to 17 people, The Irish Times has learned.
Sources closes to the Dwyer family have said Mr Dwyer told them he was going to Bolivia for a three-month training course linked to his work in the security industry. He suggested to the family he was going to Bolivia at the behest of an employer here.
However, it has now emerged he paid for his own flights to Bolivia and there is no information at this point to suggest he was in the country doing a course for a company.
Mr Dwyer’s family are now trying to contact some of the Irish people the dead man travelled to Bolivia with. It appears Mr Dwyer broke away from the group and took up local work.
Shortly after arriving in Bolivia Mr Dwyer posted photographs on his Bebo site of himself in the country with other people with a Caucasian appearance.
He had worked for at least two Irish security companies before he travelled to South America at the end of last year. He had been employed on a part-time basis with Integrated Risk Management Services (IRMS).
They are a well-known company based in Naas, Co Kildare, headed by a former member of the Army Ranger Wing. The company has been best-known in recent years as the security provider to Shell at its controversial Corrib gas pipeline project in Co Mayo.
It is unclear if Mr Dwyer worked at the Shell site in Co Mayo, but a number of local sources said they believed he had worked there for a period.
When contacted, a spokesman at the company declined to confirm any details of Mr Dwyer’s employment. The spokesman said Mr Dwyer’s family had asked for privacy and IRMS wanted to respect their wishes.
However, The Irish Times understands Mr Dwyer last worked for IRMS in the first half of last year. When his contract expired, he then left the company. A source close to the company said he was not working for IRMS when he went to Bolivia and that the company had never sent anybody to Bolivia.
Mr Dwyer also worked for a now-defunct company in Oranmore, Co Galway, called Praetorian Security. It was one of the biggest firms in Ireland, supplying security to pubs and nightclubs. Last June, the Private Security Authority suspended its licence over failure to meet all its tax compliance obligations.
The dead man had also trained as bodyguard.
Mr Dwyer worked part-time as a pub security guard while he was studying construction management in Galway-Mayo Institute of Technology. When he graduated last year, he worked in security full-time in Ireland before travelling to Bolivia at the end of last year.
It appears that while in Bolivia Mr Dwyer was offered security work by Eduardo Rózsa Flores, a Bolivian with Croat nationality who grew up in Hungary.
The 49-year-old was killed with Mr Dwyer in a Santa Cruz hotel last Thursday. A veteran of the Balkans conflict, he has been described as the leader of the group of alleged mercenaries the Bolivians say were plotting to kill their president, Evo Morales. The nature of Mr Dwyer’s work, and what the group were doing in Santa Cruz, remains unclear.
A third man killed in the incident last week was today identified as a Romanian citizen.

The Romanian Foreign Ministry said it had received official confirmation that one of those shot was a Romanian citizen, but had received no clarification from Bolivia on the circumstances of his death.

It declined to name him.
Mr Dwyer's parents said tonight that they hoped an inquiry into his death would clear his name.

In an interview with RTÉ news, Martin and Caroline Dwyer dismissed suggestions that their son had been involved in a plot to kill the president of Bolivia.

“It’s absolutely ridiculous. There’s no way Michael was ever involved in anything like that,” Mrs Dwyer said.

Mr Dwyer said he was disgusted that pictures of his son's body appeared in newspapers after his death.

He said Michael would not have been capable of taking part in a shoot-out with state security forces.

“We spoke to Michael Martin ourselves yesterday, he phoned, and we said that to him, that we would like to have some answers, whatever they could come up with.

“I think it’s a good idea having an inquiry. Hopefully something will come out of it then, to try and clear his name.”
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/brea...tml?via=mr

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Of course, Bolivia is one of the very few places in the world which offer bodyguard courses.
Irishman planned to take part in bodyguard course




CONOR LALLYMIKE DWYER travelled to Bolivia from Ireland with a number of men who returned home when a bodyguard course they had expected to attend did not take place. However, Mr Dwyer stayed on in the country.
Mr Dwyer’s family said yesterday they believed he travelled to Bolivia from Ireland with 15 people. The Irish Times understands the 24-year-old left Dublin in November, and flew to Madrid.
From Spain he flew to the Bolivian capital, La Paz, with three companions he had worked with in Ireland. It is unclear when the other 11 men who the Dwyer family believe were in the party went to Bolivia.
Sources who knew Mr Dwyer said the three men they were certain he travelled with were not Irish. Two were Hungarian and one was a Polish national.
One of these men knew Eduardo Rozsa Flores, the 49-year-old man killed with Mr Dwyer in Bolivia last week and whom the authorities there described as the leader of the group. One source said he believed Mr Dwyer may have met Flores in Bolivia through their mutual Hungarian friend.
The three men Mr Dwyer flew to Bolivia with came back to Ireland when they realised the bodyguard course they had travelled to participate in was not going to take place. One source described it as a “course that never was”.
“They spent most of their time by a lake and canoeing – that kind of thing. Two of them changed their tickets and came home early, and the other guy waited a few weeks and came home on his original ticket. Michael was having a good time and he stayed on out there.”
After remaining on in Bolivia, it is understood that Mr Dwyer was employed as a security guard or bodyguard by Mr Flores. The exact nature of what they were doing is not clear. The Bolivian authorities have claimed they were mercenaries attempting to kill President Evo Morales.
Mr Dwyer and the three men he travelled with are believed to have paid their own airfares to Madrid. One source who spoke to The Irish Times said he believed the four tickets on to La Paz were paid for by a separate party but he did not know who this was.
All of the four had previously worked for a security firm based in Naas, Co Kildare, called Integrated Risk Management Services Ltd (I-RMS). It is best known for having provided security at Shell’s controversial Corrib gas pipeline in Co Mayo in recent years.
The contracts of many security workers at the Mayo site expired last October because security was scaled back when construction ceased.
Mr Dwyer and the three men he travelled to Bolivia with were out of work in October and decided to go to Bolivia the next month for the bodyguard course.
I-RMS confirmed in a statement to The Irish Times that Mr Dwyer had worked for the company. It said he was employed as a security guard at the Corrib gas construction site from March to mid-October last year after answering a Fás employment advert.
I-RMS said he had been working as a pub doorman when he joined them. The firm hired him after a full Garda check and after examining his Private Security Authority of Ireland licence.
The statement described him as a “focused student” who worked to pay his way through college at Galway-Mayo Institute of Technology, from which he graduated as a construction engineer. His employment ended with them on October 20th last.
There is no suggestion whatever that I-RMS organised the men’s trip to Bolivia.
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Magda Hassan Wrote:Of course, Bolivia is one of the very few places in the world which offer bodyguard courses.

It's also supposedly a great place to make ethnographic studies of French music.... :flute::flute:

Of course, if I wanted to conduct some genuine anthropology in Bolivia, I'd be looking to observe the Lesser Spotted Neo-Nazi with a mystical interest in Thule and an ability to goosestep whilst flying a Swastika-daubed flag ...
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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#73
I much like the last words of the last Inca in your sig line Jan.

Now back to this most interesting thread...
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#74
David Guyatt Wrote:I much like the last words of the last Inca in your sig line Jan.

Thanks, and it's highly appropriate for this thread.

Atahualpa, one of the two Inka Emperors when the Spanish arrived, was also a victim of the dogs of war and men of god.

Fearful of Atahualpa's power over the indigenous people of the Andes, the conquistador Pizarro staged a mock trial and sentenced Atahualpa to execution by burning. Atahualpa believed his soul could not travel to the afterlife if his body was burned. So a priest, who had been trying to persuade Atahualpa to convert, told the Inka Emperor that if he was baptized into the Catholic faith, the sentence would be commuted.

In such a way, Friar Vincente de Valverde, notorious for his Inka slaves, claimed the soul of "Juan Santos Atahualpa" for the Catholic Church.

In 1533, almost immediately after the baptism, the Inka Atahualpa was garotted.

Around 1540, after the first "Spanish Conquest", the Inka staged a second rebellion based around the religious centre of Vilcabamba. In 1572, the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, raised in the Inka religion, was eventually trapped with his pregnant wife by conquistadors. Tupac Amaru was assured that no harm would come to him if he and his party surrendered.

Instead, the captive Tupac Amaru was paraded through the sacred streets of Cuzco with a gold chain around his neck. The conquistadors also paraded the holy mallqui (mummies) of the Inka Emperors Manco Capac and Titu Cusi and a gold statue of Punchao, a representation of the Inkan lineage containing the mortal remains of the hearts of the deceased Inkas.

Tupac Amaru was baptized into Catholicism, then subjected to a mock trial.

Quote:An eyewitness report from the day recalls that Tupac Amaru was led through the streets of Cuzco between Father Alonso de Baranza and Father Molina, who instructed him for the benefit of his soul. Vega Laoiza has him riding a mule with hands tied behind his back and a rope around his neck. Gabriel Oviedo and Baltasar de Ocampo report great crowds and the Inca surrounded by 400 guards with lances. In front of the main cathedral in the central square of Cuzco a black-draped scaffold had been erected. The plaza was so densely crowded for the spectacle that the chief officer of the court rode down many people to clear a path. Reportedly 10,000 to 15,000 witnesses were present.

Tupac Amaru mounted the scaffold with Bishop Agustín de la Corunna. The "multitude of Indians, who completely filled the square, saw that lamentable spectacle [and knew] that their lord and Inca was to die, they deafened the skies, making them reverberate with their cries and wailing." (Murúa 271)

Another eyewitness, Juan Quispe Kuro, reports that Tupac Amaru's last request was that he be allowed to say good-bye to his young children, who ascended the gallows with dignity and hugged their father.

As reported by Baltasar de Ocampa and Friar Gabriel de Oviedo, Prior of the Dominicans at Cuzco, both eyewitnesses, the Incas last words were, "Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."

By one account Tupac Amaru placed his head on the block. The executioner took Tupac's hair in one hand and severed his head in a single blow. He raised his head in the air for the crowd to view. At the same time all the bells of the many churches and monasteries of the city were rung. A great sorrow and tears were brought to all the native peoples present.

The military leader of the Incan army, Wallpa Yupanki was also decapitated, two generals were hung and the hands of three other resistors were chopped off, according to Guillon's recounting. Toledo also ordered the burning of the mummies of the Incas.

Baltasar Ocampo reports that Tupac Amaru's severed head was impaled on a lance near the gallows.

The Inka were faced with "a new kind of human being who waged war à outrance, inspired by a terrifying religion which enabled them to use treachery, hypocrisy, cruelty, torture, and massacre in the name of a God of Love" (Hyams & Ordish).

Ultimately, the people of the Andes from Ecuador to Bolivia decided to pretend to obey the foreigners, the men of god and the dogs of war, the landlords and mineowners who worked them to death. They decided to wait them out, preserving their indigenous culture in secret places.

Four and a half centuries later, the enemy and the war has not changed.

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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#75
A little more history from the margins.....

Quote:Túpac Katari (also Túpaj Katari) (c. 1750 – 15 November 1781), born Julián Apasa, was a leader in the rebellions of indigenous people in Bolivia in the early 1780s.

A member of the Aymara, Apasa took the name "Tupac Katari" to honor two rebel leaders: Tomás Katari, and Tupac Amaru II. He raised an army of some 40,000 and laid siege to the city of La Paz in 1781. Katari and his wife, Bartolina Sisa set up court in El Alto and maintained the siege for 184 days, from March to June and from August to October. Sisa was a commander of the siege, and played the crucial rule following Katari's capture in April. The siege was broken by colonial troops who advanced from Lima and Buenos Aires.[1]

Katari laid siege again later in the year, this time joined by Andrés Túpac Amaru, nephew of Tupac Amaru II. But Katari was again unsuccessful.
“ By August 5th, Túpac Katari and his forces had again besieged the city, and a few weeks later they were joined by forces led by Andrés Túpac Amaru. In mid-September, another cousin of the Inca rebel, Miguel Bastidas Túpac Amaru, arrived to help prosecute the siege before it was finally broken by loyalists led by Josef Reseguín on October 17, 1781. As the royalist noose tightened, Túpac Katari was captured after a feast and was executed on November 13, and Diego Cristóbal Túpac Amaru was captured at Marcapata, in Quispicanchis, on March 15, 1782. Seeing few alternatives, Miguel Bastidas Túpac Amaru obtained a pardon by assisting the Spanish in suppressing what was left of the rebellion.[2] ”

Despite his subsequent betrayal, defeat, torture, and execution (torn by his extremities into four pieces), Túpac Katari is remembered as a hero by modern indigenous movements in Bolivia, who call themselves Katarismo. A Bolivian guerrilla group, the Tupac Katari Guerrilla Army, also bears his name.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%BApac_Katari

Quote:The Tupac Katari Guerrilla Army (Ejército Guerrillero Túpac Katari) is an indigenous guerrilla movement in Bolivia. The organization descends directly from the original revolutionaries trained by Che Guevara in the 1960s. Their objective is to fight for social equality in Bolivia and amongst its indigenous population. They carried out their first attack on July 5, 1991, destroying an electric power pylon in El Alto, a suburb of La Paz. Most of their attacks have been similarly small-scale. The group has confined its activities to Bolivia. The group suffered a major setback in a crackdown in 1992 when much of its leadership was neutralized through incarceration.

The group is named after Tupac Katari, colonial revolutionary.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupac_Katar...rilla_Army
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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#76
I can't find a whitewash smiley, so the following will have to suffice for this pathetic piece in the Irish Times:

Toilet

Quote:Wild journey ends for Eduardo Flores, 'soldier and guerrilla'

Eduardo Flores: would attach himself to underdog causes

Daniel McLaughlin in Budapest profiles the Bolivian-born but much-travelled Eduardo Rózsa Flores, claimed by authorities to be the plot leader

EDUARDO RÓZSA Flores came to the end of an extraordinary and often bizarre journey in a Bolivian hotel room.

According to his blog, he was born in Bolivia in 1960 to a leftist Hungarian painter father and a Spanish teacher mother, who moved to Chile and then fled to Sweden after right-wing dictator Augusto Pinochet ousted socialist leader Salvador Allende from power in Santiago in a 1973 coup.

Two years later the family arrived in Hungary, where Flores went on to become the last leader of his university’s communist youth group before the Soviet bloc collapsed in 1989.

For his compulsory national service, Flores served as a border guard at Budapest airport and, according to friends and Hungarian media, acted as a translator for international terrorist Carlos the Jackal when he used Budapest as a base from around 1983 to 1985.

Former acquaintances in Budapest say Flores found work as a journalist and correspondent’s assistant for the BBC’s Spanish-language service and Spanish newspaper La Vanguardia , which took him to former Yugoslavia as it descended into war in the early 1990s.

At this point, Flores abandoned journalism and joined the fighting, helping to establish a foreign volunteers brigade based around the northern Croatian town of Osijek, and fought for Croatia’s independence from Belgrade’s rule.

“The Serbs detained Eduardo for three or four days, beat him up and accused him of being a spy. He was livid and told a Croatian journalist soon afterwards that he wanted to fight,” a close friend of Flores in Budapest told The Irish Times on condition of anonymity.

Flores claimed to have been wounded several times in Croatia, and to have been promoted to the rank of colonel and given Croatian citizenship by then-president Franjo Tudjman.

But the Balkan wars also cast a dark shadow on Flores’ reputation, and caused several old Budapest acquaintances to shun him, particularly as rumours swirled that he may have ordered the killing of a Swiss and a British journalist who went to Croatia to investigate his volunteers brigade.

After the war ended in 1995, Flores returned to Hungary and wrote poetry (http://www.poetasdelmundo.com/verInfo_eu...sp?ID=1067) but was seen less frequently in Budapest. On his page on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/user/eduflores), he said he was living in the country village of Szurdokpuspoki and described himself as an “international war correspondent-turned-platoon-leader” and said he was working as a journalist and actor.

Flores did play himself in a film that was based on his adventures, called Chico , and many of the tributes in Croatian and Hungarian posted on his YouTube pages and his own blog (http://eduardorozsaflores.blogspot.com) refer to him by that nickname.

In recent years, Flores converted to Islam and continued to support a bewildering array of causes, including independence for the Santa Cruz region of Bolivia where he was killed, opposing the US war in Iraq and calling for a Palestinian state.

“He was an idealist who would attach himself to underdog causes and identified himself with oppressed people. He could speak at a communist rally in the morning and a far-right one in the afternoon, and not see any contradiction,” said his old friend in Budapest.

Zoltan Brady, editor of the Kapu magazine that Flores wrote for, said he had gone to Bolivia last spring “to fight against its communist government” and for the independence of the province of Santa Cruz.

“Eduardo was a guerrilla fighter and was living in the Bolivian jungle for some time, having guerrilla activities everyday with thousands of his fellow fighters. But it is not true that he wanted to assassinate the president or anyone else. He was a solder and a guerrilla,” said Brady, who claims to have last talked to Flores just two days before his death.

His friend in Budapest also found it impossible to believe that he was plotting to kill Evo Morales.

“I think he probably met this group of people, including the Irishman, and bragged about what he had done and where he had been. And with his profile and perhaps some weapons with him, he was seen as the perfect guy to set up. He was not a spotless guy, that’s for sure, but he was not a terrorist either.”

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/worl...ml?via=rel
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Former acquaintances in Budapest say Flores found work as a journalist and correspondent’s assistant for the BBC’s Spanish-language service and Spanish newspaper La Vanguardia , which took him to former Yugoslavia as it descended into war in the early 1990s.

At this point, Flores abandoned journalism and joined the fighting...

Where the Aginter Press left off, the BBC/MI6 carried on...our licence fee at work, fellow mugs!

PS For those unfamiliar with the former, a brief intro:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aginter_Press
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#78
Interview today with Pres Evo Morales.

Teaser quotes:

When asked about a secessionist movement in Santa Cruz (ie Camba Nation etc):
Quote:It’s not Santa Cruz. It’s some families in Santa Cruz..... Now, speaking of autonomy, the national government is going to guarantee autonomy for the peoples, not autonomy for the small elite cliques.

More broadly:

Quote:I have no reason to get involved in the internal politics of the United States. I very much respect that there are democratic elections and primary elections within each party, Democratic and Republican. I fully respect that, and similarly, I would hope that they not meddle in Bolivia.

There’s a conspiracy headed up by the US ambassador, and I hope that it can be withdrawn or put to a stop by the government and the people of the United States.

Rosza Flores' hit squad failed in Bolivia.

Morales is currently in New York. I hope he's got his Secret Service with him, checking for any Operation Condor attempts by thugs like Michael Townley to blow up his limo. (Of course Pinochet's neo-fascist Chile "extradited" Townley to the US who freed him under the, ahem, "witness protection programme". Nothing to see here. Move along.)

Quote:JUAN GONZALEZ: Bolivian President Evo Morales opened this week’s UN Forum on Indigenous Issues. An Aymara Indian, Evo Morales became the country’s first indigenous president when he was elected two-and-a-half years ago with more popular support than any Bolivian leader in decades. During his keynote address, President Morales raised criticism about the impact of climate change on indigenous peoples, especially the use of biofuels and how it was affecting world hunger.

I had a chance to sit down with President Morales at the Bolivian mission here in New York for an interview. I began by asking him about the comments he made at the UN.

PRESIDENT EVO MORALES: [translated] Thank you very much for the invitation and for this kind interview. I’m very pleased, as always, to talk with you and share our proposals on behalf of life.

I’ve come at the invitation of the Permanent Forum of Indigenous Peoples of the United Nations. I was, as a union—to share experiences on climate change, first as a peasant union leader and second as a president. Unfortunately, the so-called developing countries are the hardest hit by natural phenomena. These natural phenomena are a result of the unbridled industrialization of the Western countries. I think that the countries of the West are under an obligation to see how they can pay the environmental debt to reduce harm to the planet earth. The planet earth has suffered a death warrant and must be saved, and that means saving planet earth is to save life and to save humankind.

But there are other factors that are leading to the inflation in prices for some agricultural goods, particularly biofuels and programs implemented by some presidents for some movements called biofuels or agrofuels. They are setting aside millions and millions of hectares to produce agricultural goods which are earmarked for biofuels. And it’s not possible to understand in this new millennium how there are governments, presidents, institutions that are more interested in a heap of metal than in life. They’re more interested in fueling luxury cars than in feeding human beings.

That’s where we raise a question. First, land is to be for life and not land for scrap metal or a heap of metal. And while some presidents and some international organizations want to implement measures of this sort, well, I believe very much in the social movements. So, for example, the Free Trade Area of the Americas, well, there’s been an international movement, and we’ve put a halt to it. In addition, there are major movements against biofuels or agrofuels, and we need to wake up some presidents and international organizations before this problem of hunger that’s suffered by families and hectares of land being earmarked to cars rather than people goes any further.

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PRESIDENT EVO MORALES: [translated] I just had a great meeting with the indigenous movement of the United States. There was applause. Everyone was very pleased. Sometimes it’s with the governments that we want to have better relationships. And I have no reason to get involved in the internal matters of the United States. We respect them. But they also shouldn’t meddle in my country, even though at this time there is a permanent conspiracy against the government.

JUAN GONZALEZ: I’d like to ask you about the situation domestically in your own country. When last we talked, there was a movement toward a new constitution, and there was also some discontent among some of the departments. And recently, Santa Cruz and some of the other departments have moved to call for a referendum on autonomy that the courts have ruled illegal. Your understanding of why the constitutional reform has been delayed and what the crisis with Santa Cruz and the other three departments represents?

PRESIDENT EVO MORALES: [translated] It’s not Santa Cruz. It’s some families in Santa Cruz. And it’s not in other departments. Some politicians or those who play at politics—well, who are those who play at politics? Those who live off of politics and don’t live for politics, former national authorities—they’ve turned to the regions in order to put up resistance against my government—former neoliberals who want to recoup the national government or take back the national government with pretexts, such as autonomy, private property, so many things that they turn to to figure out how they can weaken President Evo Morales.

Now, speaking of autonomy, the national government is going to guarantee autonomy for the peoples, not autonomy for the small elite cliques. And therefore, in this new constitution, new political constitution of the Bolivian state, which still needs to be put to a popular consultation, there is a guarantee for autonomy, not just autonomy of the departments, but also autonomy for indigenous peoples as the United Nations proclaims in its Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, regional autonomy as well.

But those opposition groups who lost their control over the national government want to use the autonomy question to damage or divide Bolivia. First, the autonomy statute that they’re holding a vote on is illegal and unconstitutional. Why? Because under the current constitution, there is no provision for autonomy. But here, we are guaranteeing autonomy. Second, any referendum must be called by the national congress. And here, the governor decided illegally and unconstitutionally, and all because they are in agony, the historical enemies of the indigenous movement, of the people and the social movements, and, I should say, the pro-capitalists.

JUAN GONZALEZ: And why are they in agony?

PRESIDENT EVO MORALES: [translated] Because the space for them is ever more limited. And in the face of their desperation, they try to cause confusion with these kinds of calls for a vote on an autonomy statute. So, as it’s illegal and unconstitutional, it’s really like an opinion poll. And they have—they’re fully in their right to have an opinion poll. But it’s not a referendum on the autonomy statute.

But I repeat, we are going to guarantee—well, to better explain, first the mother and then the child. So, first the new constitution and then a decision on autonomy statutes. How can you have a child without the mother? And from that point of view, they’re not respecting the rule of law or legality. In my first year of government, these groups always said the president doesn’t respect rule of law or legality. Now, the people can see and the whole world can see how these sectors don’t respect the rule of law.

JUAN GONZALEZ: And finally, Mr. President—I know you’re pressed for time—I’d like to ask you a question about the United States. As you may have heard, we’re having an election for president this year, and there are two Democrats, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, vying for the Democratic nomination to run against McCain, the Republican candidate, John McCain. Your sense of whether—which of these candidates has shown a policy that would be more friendlier to the people of Latin America and the aspirations of the people of Latin America and of your country?

PRESIDENT EVO MORALES: [translated] I have no reason to get involved in the internal politics of the United States. I very much respect that there are democratic elections and primary elections within each party, Democratic and Republican. I fully respect that, and similarly, I would hope that they not meddle in Bolivia.

There’s a conspiracy headed up by the US ambassador, and I hope that it can be withdrawn or put to a stop by the government and the people of the United States. Processes of change are healthy everywhere seeking equality and social justice, the most important thing that us presidents can do or that candidates can do. But I have no reason to give an opinion in respect of one party or another or in respect of the candidates who are vying for the candidacy in the primaries. So, out of respect for the people of the United States, I don’t have any opinion to share or any candidate to favor.

http://www.democracynow.org/2008/4/24/we...is_of_evil
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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#79
Paul Rigby Wrote:
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Former acquaintances in Budapest say Flores found work as a journalist and correspondent’s assistant for the BBC’s Spanish-language service and Spanish newspaper La Vanguardia , which took him to former Yugoslavia as it descended into war in the early 1990s.

At this point, Flores abandoned journalism and joined the fighting...

Where the Aginter Press left off, the BBC/MI6 carried on...our licence fee at work, fellow mugs!

PS For those unfamiliar with the former, a brief intro:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aginter_Press

I'm sure that Magda already has the Aginter Press down for inclusion in mher truly excellent "Players, Organization and events of Deep Politics" which would be a worthy inclusion imo. I seem to recall that Robin's LOBSTER has some relevant material on this outfit too...
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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I do indeed David. There was that other multi-cultural and geographically mobile fascist dog of war Stefano Delle Chiaie involved in those operations. It is still a work in progress but feel free to add to it.
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