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Son of Hitler's/Nazi Art Dealer Dead Shortly After Coming to Public Attention
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Peter Lemkin Wrote:My friend Andreas has uncovered a very large and to date publicly unknown super-secret Nazi underground facility near Linz, Austria. The Austrian government knew about it - but has said and done nothing about it. Andreas has....

Vast underground complex where the Nazis developed WMD is discovered in Austria
Facility was discovered near the town of St Georgen an der Gusen, Austria
Believed that it could be connected to another Nazi weapons facility
Experts believe that it was used to conduct research into atomic bombs
Supported by heightened radiation readings and witness testimonies
This is very exciting news! I do hope they are wearing protective clothing.


Peter Lemkin Wrote:He told the Sunday Times: 'Prisoners from concentration camps across Europe were handpicked for their special skills - physicists, chemists or other experts - to work on this monstrous project and we owe it to the victims to finally open the site and reveal the truth.'

Indeed we do. And to show his humanity I see Rupert Murdoch has placed this information behind a pay wall.



Peter Lemkin Wrote:The probe was triggered by a research documentary by Mr Sulzer on Hitler's quest to build an atomic bomb.
In it, he referenced diary entries from a physicist called up to work for the Nazis. There is other evidence of scientists working for a secret project managed by SS General Hans Kammler.
Kammler, who signed off the plans for the gas chambers and crematorium at Auschwitz, was in charge of Hitler's missile programmes.

Kammler sure seems like a guy who can multi task. I know you have been doing much work on Kammler. This must be a wonderful research find for you too.
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The Austrian Govt. [through the Police] have forced a halt to all excavation and won't issue a permit to unearth the entrance and open it....the reason they gave Andreas was 'state secrets'...a very interesting 'reason'....as THAT state is no more.....or is it?!......::drwho::
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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Peter Lemkin Wrote:The Austrian Govt. [through the Police] have forced a halt to all excavation and won't issue a permit to unearth the entrance and open it....the reason they gave Andreas was 'state secrets'...a very interesting 'reason'....as THAT state is no more.....or is it?!......::drwho::

::hush::::willynilly:: How bizarre. I could understand they wanted to check out the radioactive levels for safety or even remove contaminated soil etc. but surely they would want the historians in there to document it all? Apparently not...
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Magda Hassan Wrote:
Peter Lemkin Wrote:The Austrian Govt. [through the Police] have forced a halt to all excavation and won't issue a permit to unearth the entrance and open it....the reason they gave Andreas was 'state secrets'...a very interesting 'reason'....as THAT state is no more.....or is it?!......::drwho::

::hush::::willynilly:: How bizarre. I could understand they wanted to check out the radioactive levels for safety or even remove contaminated soil etc. but surely they would want the historians in there to document it all? Apparently not...

Some aspects of the Austrian 'state' has known about this underground facility since the end of the War [but kept it SECRET]. The radiation levels on the surface are not very high - only high enough to indicate something related to radioactive materials had once gone on there. In fact, it is situated near a built-up area of homes and all the people living there and especially their children or persons walking the dogs or going for a walk in the woods are exposed to the radiation - and have been for over 65 years - but the 'state' has done nothing about it - not even told anyone.....[the radioactivity, however, is high enough that it should have long ago been fenced off and cleaned up!]

What is amazing to me [a student of Nazi underground facilities] is that there was such a large one that was unknown up to this time!....but perhaps it is a sub-section of the two known underground facilities in the area - that was sealed off just before or at the end of the War...but if so...why?!...and by who?! What secrets lie inside?!...and who wants it not known about..... All other larger former Nazi underground facilities were first investigated by the Allied troops and often by locals and/or spelunkers. Some are now tourist attractions or available on a permit basis. Some others were sealed up after the War for various reasons, but we have maps of them and some descriptions of what went on inside them...often very specific. I have maps and photos of the insides of all of them...except this one. I wonder if the Nazis or the Americans sealed this up and wanted some secret kept. Some facilities in [then] East Germany were sealed by the Russians and East Germans for 'security' reasons [to not allow anyone to know what had been inside and taken out]. In the Czech Republic there was a huge underground Nazi factory code-named 'Richard'. While much of it was taken up with rather 'mundane' wartime production, one area was reported by many slave laborers to have been very secret and only Germans were allowed entry. This area they also claimed to have been radioactive at the time. Oddly, now this area is used by the Czech state as their nuclear waste repository, so no one can now tell if there was radiation there during the War....
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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Peter Lemkin Wrote:
Magda Hassan Wrote:
Peter Lemkin Wrote:The Austrian Govt. [through the Police] have forced a halt to all excavation and won't issue a permit to unearth the entrance and open it....the reason they gave Andreas was 'state secrets'...a very interesting 'reason'....as THAT state is no more.....or is it?!......::drwho::

::hush::::willynilly:: How bizarre. I could understand they wanted to check out the radioactive levels for safety or even remove contaminated soil etc. but surely they would want the historians in there to document it all? Apparently not...

Some aspects of the Austrian 'state' has known about this underground facility since the end of the War [but kept it SECRET]. The radiation levels on the surface are not very high - only high enough to indicate something related to radioactive materials had once gone on there. In fact, it is situated near a built-up area of homes and all the people living there and especially their children or persons walking the dogs or going for a walk in the woods are exposed to the radiation - and have been for over 65 years - but the 'state' has done nothing about it - not even told anyone..... What is amazing to me [a student of Nazi underground facilities] is that there was such a large one that was unknown up to this time!....but perhaps it is a sub-section of the two known underground facilities in the area - that was sealed off just before or at the end of the War...but if so...why?!...and by who?! What secrets lie inside?!...and who wants it not known about..... All other former Nazi underground facilities were first investigated by the Allied troops and often by locals and/or spelunkers. Some are now tourist attractions or available on a permit basis. Some others were sealed up after the War for various reasons, but we have maps of them and some descriptions of what went on inside them...often very specific. I have maps and photos of the insides of all of them...except this one. I wonder if the Nazis or the Americans sealed this up and wanted some secret kept. Some facilities in [then] East Germany were sealed by the Russians and East Germans for 'security' reasons [to not allow anyone to know what had been inside and taken out].

All very suspicious eh. But that seems to be the case whenever Kammler was involved.
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David Guyatt Wrote:All very suspicious eh. But that seems to be the case whenever Kammler was involved.

Aye, it does seem [to me] that there is something beyond 'bad Karma' and 'happenstance' when it comes to some things related to some of the projects within the portfolio of that man. ::bowtie::
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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