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This video hits on some important points although it then veers slightly into Fetzerism. I'd say it comes close to being the best production I've seen that concentrates the essence of deep politics and their true face in the last century. It goes above and beyond Douglass and pretty much pulls the mask off conventional society showing its ugly bare bones. That said, it makes the fatal mistake of endorsing some questionable claims like Bush being photographed in Dealey Plaza when it clearly isn't him and there being an array of shooters in the Plaza, including on the County Records Building rooftop when anyone in the Criminal Courts Building next door could have just looked down at them. It then drifts into Fetzer land by saying virtually everything since JFK's assassination was an orchestrated false flag. If it wasn't for that this was the best production I've ever seen as far as bringing into focus the true history of the west. It does counter exaggeration and deprogramming that is mostly based on truth. Worth a watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-v...l=84838260
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I could only stomach about 10-15 minutes of this when I tried to watch it last week. I had to turn it off when he flashed up the infographic showing two snipers on the roof of the County Records Building. Pure disinformation rubbish imo.
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28-01-2015, 04:24 PM
(This post was last modified: 28-01-2015, 04:41 PM by Drew Phipps.)
The three and a half hour video (whew!) is interesting watching, but contains many inaccuracies and what appears to be deliberate misstatements about the JFK assassination and the eye-witnesses. It appears to try to incorporate every single conspiracy into a master conspiracy (rich v. poor, sure you've heard the theme). At the end, it's English-accented narrator calls for a march on Washington and a revolution. It's a propaganda piece, to be sure. But what is its purpose?
It has a Marxist type attitude and uses Marxist buzzwords, but it doesn't suggest that wealth (or the product of labor) should be "redistributed to benefit the common man." It does state that the elite were so afraid of socialism that they were willing to "engineer" every major historical event since the Bolshie revolution, including WW2. It's anti-religious, so it isn't a Muslim-inspired piece aimed at slowing down the "War on Terror". Although it does contain some interesting factual material concerning JFK, it is far too easy to factually discredit to be considered a disinformation bit aimed at JFK conspiracy theorists. And 8 professional assassins fire 16 bullets at short range, score five hits, and leave almost no forensic or evidentiary trace of their existence?
So, disinformation, sure, but qui bono?
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It has serious warts like the storm drain shooter but does present the "Hidden History" part well.
I find things like Badgeman being a CIA red-herring fabrication interesting. How would that fare with Gary Mack if it was?
The video reminds me of the movie "They Live" which shows a man who finds special sunglasses that let him see the alien reptilians amongst us.
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I was happy to see the John Liggett story get some airtime, but I don't really believe that Liggett used his mortician skills on Tippet's body to make a "JFK's corpse", and then somehow the mighty conspirators forgot to swap the fake body for the real one. Liggett was a murderer and a bad apple, to be sure, but the only source of information for his involvement as a mortician in JFK is his estranged ex-wife and family (who also insist that his subsequent shooting death by DPD while escaping was faked). If his mortician skills were so great, how did the results end so badly?
Furthermore I find that the story of him "relaxing," after Oswald is killed, not at all indicative of his involvement as a mortician. How on earth would Oswald know (prior to his arrest, and thus be able to confess to cops) that Liggett would be called to alter JFK's corpse to frame him (Oswald)? If Liggett knew Ferrie, as stated in the video, that might suggest another type of involvement, but not in that particular way.
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James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis."
Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."
Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."
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That's why people shouldn't quit this video too quickly. It does contain some interesting points. Perhaps Liggett was involved in some kind of Lifton-like surgery.
This narrator is like Fetzer in that he buys every single theory, like Tippit's body being used as a swap. Judyth Baker found that Tippit had an open casket wake so that would mean his body did a lot of flying around.
Could it be Liggett simply worked on Kennedy?
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The problem is, when I can spot a number of factual errors and/or deliberate falsehoods in one portion of the video concerning a topic that I know something about, it makes me far more skeptical of the "facts" presented in the "hidden history" portion of the video.
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James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis."
Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."
Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."
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Drew Phipps Wrote:The problem is, when I can spot a number of factual errors and/or deliberate falsehoods in one portion of the video concerning a topic that I know something about, it makes me far more skeptical of the "facts" presented in the "hidden history" portion of the video.
Drew: I agree with you, the assassination information was worthless or worse it proclaimed non-sense as truth and unsuspecting viewers will be indoctrinated with a theory based in fantasy. It does leave in doubt the other information and how truthful it was or how slanted it could be.
Who has the money to put together this type of production, was it funded by an institution?
It seems the military was not really implicated as a problem in this video, makes me wonder if the military played a role in producing this slick piece of propaganda since the movie kept directing the attention at problems created by the elites and bankers but since WWII it has been the military that has controlled our world?
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No mention of the USS Liberty incident. That is one of the best examples.
I don't see too much that's too far off in the build up of Hitler part. It makes me fear that the Business Plot people got together behind Hitler to have someone representing their military power model.
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Albert Doyle Wrote:No mention of the USS Liberty incident. That is one of the best examples.
I don't see too much that's too far off in the build up of Hitler part. It makes me fear that the Business Plot people got together behind Hitler to have someone representing their military power model.
Also that the military controlled the private autopsy of KENNEDY, altered KENNEDYS wounds, altered the records and falsified the autopsy results.
Not many know about the USS Liberty.
