David Guyatt Wrote:If Crowley's Master Lam originated from the realms of the "Qlippoth" -- that is to say the "Tunnels of Set" then we are, indeed, dealing with something very unpleasant.
Yes David, most unpleasant indeed.
David Guyatt Wrote:As spooky as it is, it can barely be denied that there are clear connections between a variety of curious subjects including mind control technology, UFOs, advanced Nazi weapons, Nazi occult practices of the Himmler/Thule Gesellschaft variety, L Ron Hubbard, the US and Nazi Rocket Programme (Crowleyite Jack Parsons et al), the Priory of Sion, the Nephilim (Watchers), the Merovignian bloodline, the Tunnels of Set a.k.a., the Tree of Death, the SS and the Scwarze Sonne -- also the "Black Sun" of alchemical literature and, of course, Jung's various discourses on the personal and Collective Shadow and the assassination of JFK. To mention just some key ones.
So far as I'm concerned, the subject matter you raised here is both the most important out there to investigate *and come to terms with*, yet by far the most difficult to discuss and/or describe. Quite the uncomfortable dichotomy... While as usual due diligence in research is vital, that alone can only take one so far IMO. It's ubiquitous, but in the end either you can see it, or you can't.
Reminds me of the beginning of the old t.v. show Kung Fu describing Kwai Chang Caine: "Looked for he cannot be seen, listened for he cannot be heard, felt for he cannot be touched".
Any further thoughts or observations on this since 2010?
Well, I'm more certain than ever that the UFO subject - and that of the surrounding philosophy too - is intricately related to the Nazis. I have zero doubt that what were reported as UFO's in the skies back in the heyday of the 1950's and 1960's sprung from the US development of Nazi technology. And that the whole aliens are visiting us was a US military psyop designed to befuddle the public about the technological aspect of said Nazi advanced aircraft.
In the last couple of years a book was published listing some (but by no means all of the names) of the Right Club, a British organisation membered by royalty, aristocrats and other members of the British "upper" class during the middle last 1930's. I bought and read that and was shocked to see the name of Brinsley le Poer Trench, who I knew very well during my youth as a UFO researcher. A number of Brinsley's books were to do with the philosophical side of the subject and it is evident now that much of this sprang from Nazi interest in those subjects.
And when we look at some of the US players in the subject, like Guy Bannister, that Jan mentioned in the first page of this thread, we see again these Nazi type connections.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
David Guyatt Wrote:Well, I'm more certain than ever that the UFO subject - and that of the surrounding philosophy too - is intricately related to the Nazis. I have zero doubt that what were reported as UFO's in the skies back in the heyday of the 1950's and 1960's sprung from the US development of Nazi technology. And that the whole aliens are visiting us was a US military psyop designed to befuddle the public about the technological aspect of said Nazi advanced aircraft.
I'm about as certain of that as I can be as well. But that psy op sure seems to have other purposes well beyond befuddling the public doesn't it, with the alien meme becoming the new religion. Hell, I wouldn't mind going to an annual MUFON conference just to sit back and observe the who's who, and carryings on.
David Guyatt Wrote:And when we look at some of the US players in the subject, like Guy Bannister, that Jan mentioned in the first page of this thread, we see again these Nazi type connections.
Sure enough, it's almost as if one were to toss a stick in the air, chances are it would land on some sort of weird Nazi connection.
What captures my interest most these days is the overall source of all these dark orders, the Order where beings like Crowley's "Lam" spring forth from. People such as Jack Parsons, to this day, know quite well what they are dealing with in their rituals of invocation. It does indeed look as if we are sailing into a new Aeon, and historically "the gods" are most interested in the direction they take.
David Guyatt Wrote:Well, I'm more certain than ever that the UFO subject - and that of the surrounding philosophy too - is intricately related to the Nazis. I have zero doubt that what were reported as UFO's in the skies back in the heyday of the 1950's and 1960's sprung from the US development of Nazi technology. And that the whole aliens are visiting us was a US military psyop designed to befuddle the public about the technological aspect of said Nazi advanced aircraft.
I'm about as certain of that as I can be as well. But that psy op sure seems to have other purposes well beyond befuddling the public doesn't it, with the alien meme becoming the new religion. Hell, I wouldn't mind going to an annual MUFON conference just to sit back and observe the who's who, and carryings on.
I'm inclined to agree. But the technology also had a deeply occult level associated with it also and the whole 'aliens are with us' perspective directly connects to that Nazi occult tradition.
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David Guyatt Wrote:And when we look at some of the US players in the subject, like Guy Bannister, that Jan mentioned in the first page of this thread, we see again these Nazi type connections.
Sure enough, it's almost as if one were to toss a stick in the air, chances are it would land on some sort of weird Nazi connection.
What captures my interest most these days is the overall source of all these dark orders, the Order where beings like Crowley's "Lam" spring forth from. People such as Jack Parsons, to this day, know quite well what they are dealing with in their rituals of invocation. It does indeed look as if we are sailing into a new Aeon, and historically "the gods" are most interested in the direction they take.
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Yes, the so called "purple zone" if Crowley is to be believed. My understanding is that this is the dark side of the Tree of Life of Cabalistic tradition. Crowley was a Cabalist, as was Parsons and the others associated with this and their rituals are, of course, also Cabalistically focused.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
The UFO phenomenon is much older than the Nazis. Declassified government documents prove the national security state's interest and concern about the subject, and how UFOs out-perform US military jets. They've remotely shut down US nuclear missile silos. Read Leslie Kean's recent book 'UFOs: Generals, Pilots, and Government Officials Go on the Record.' If you've actually studied the phenomenon, and not just the politics behind some of the people involved, it is much more complicated than either "Nazi technology" or "alien spacecraft."
Life Magazine in their 2016 re-issue of "Strange But True" contains this picture:
Captioned: "A luminescent object hovered for 15 minutes near the Holloman Air Development Center in New Mexico on Oct. 16, 1957, and was photographed by a government employee."
Their final word (p. 41): "[UFO's are] a phenomenon. It may be fake. It may be something else entirely. But it is definitely a phenomenon, and it has been for a long, long time."
Claire Luce must be turning over in her grave.
"All that is necessary for tyranny to succeed is for good men to do nothing." (unknown)
James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis."
Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."
Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."
I'm posting this video in two different threads because it is relevant to both:
The discussion of UFOs begins at 1:17:15
“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him.â€
― Leo Tolstoy,
Fred Steeves Wrote:What captures my interest most these days is the overall source of all these dark orders, the Order where beings like Crowley's "Lam" spring forth from. People such as Jack Parsons, to this day, know quite well what they are dealing with in their rituals of invocation. It does indeed look as if we are sailing into a new Aeon, and historically "the gods" are most interested in the direction they take.
David Guyatt Wrote:Yes, the so called "purple zone" if Crowley is to be believed. My understanding is that this is the dark side of the Tree of Life of Cabalistic tradition. Crowley was a Cabalist, as was Parsons and the others associated with this and their rituals are, of course, also Cabalistically focused.
I've gotten back to looking at Crowley and associates closer than ever as of late David, but can't seem to find anything on a "purple zone". Where might I find something on that?
