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Methodical Deception - 911 Very Interesting Inside The Airline Persective
#11
Peter Lemkin Wrote:


This very perceptive former flight attendant has found new 'coincidences' and anomalies about 911! She also knows from her years as a flight attendant that some of the scenarios we've been told are false. :Turd: Have a look!

Her website is not bad either. Clever researcher on 911! I haven't yet read her books, but from her interviews [several are online], while I think her research is right on, generally; I think she sees Israel as the mastermind in the events of 911 - I see some Israeli agents and companies involved, for sure, but doing this under the direction of American 'planners' and 'coordinators', without doubt. The tail was not wagging the dog on 911.

http://www.methodicaldeception.com/resource2.html


I recently became facebok friends with this author and only had a chance to view this particular video late yesterday. Great stuff, a lot of new stuff to me also, and that it's from an insider's viewpoint a lot more about the calls from the attendants now makes much more sense. They were trying to send a message. All of the videos posted here are must viewing.

Dawn
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#12
Can anyone tell me if, while employees in WTC's North and South towers were being told to return to their desks and to not evacuate, other buildings around the circumference of the WTC complex were being evacuated?
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#13
IIRC the hotel (Marriot 3 WTC) was successfully evacuated without a single casualty.
"All that is necessary for tyranny to succeed is for good men to do nothing." (unknown)

James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis."

Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."

Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."
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#14
Interesting. Because the Marriot being a hotel wants to look after the customers because they would get sued to kingdom come if they sent every one back inside and any thing untoward happened to one of them. And it was clearly a dangerous situation in the area. Where as the workers and drones in the towers when they are not there working are not making money for their employers. Their employers already have them insured for dead peasant pay outs. No big deal. Get back to work you lazy bastards! And because they are used to being treated like a mindless drone they meekly go back. to their desks.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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#15
I was wondering as well if buildings on the streets facing the WTC complex were evacuated while the Twin Towers employees were being told to stay inside. Has anyone seen this in their reading?
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#16
David Andrews Wrote:I was wondering as well if buildings on the streets facing the WTC complex were evacuated while the Twin Towers employees were being told to stay inside. Has anyone seen this in their reading?

Yes, that was so. Certainly NO other employees were told to return to their desks/offices once they had begun to evacuate. As far as I know, no one looked into exactly who was speaking into the PA system in the towers and telling people to return to their offices - that everything was OK - nor who told them to say that homicidal and illogical statement! In surrounding properties, there was either formal evacuation or spontaneous ones when people saw what was happening around them.

Just one news report from two days after:

Quote:There was rising anger across downtown Manhattan yesterday as more and more stories from survivors of Tuesday's assault converged on the horrific truth: that staff had been instructed to remain - or even return - inside No 2 World Trade Centre after the first tower had been hit and was in flames.Most were turned back by officials of the Port Authority, which had commissioned and supervised the building of the centre in the Sixties.
Workers had looked across the divide after 8.48am at an inferno in their twin tower, and decided to make a run for it. They were told, however, to remain in their seats.
Others, who had made it down stairwells towards - or even out into - the lobby giving out on to the street and freedom, were told to run back upstairs, so that during the crucial 15 minutes of what should have been escape, there was confusion and a two-way rush along the panic-stricken arteries of life.
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#17
Even with all the complex deception and precision required for the theatrical impacts on the twin towers and the pentagon, the number of fatalities caused by those impacts was around 300.

Not until those towers violently exploded, upwardly and outwardly, did the death toll climb toward 3000. Only then did first responders lose their lives in great numbers. Without this additional crime, the destruction of the Three towers, After the initial impacts, do we have the same unfolding of history?

And as we watched buildings "blow up" with our own eyes, we later came to be told "they fell down."

And as we watched the back of Kennedy's head blown to pieces, we later are told "he was shot from behind".


You need not concoct any 'theories' to understand we are not being told the truth.

It is a sufficient starting point to simply be a witness.
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#18
I watched it on live TV. I didn't see anything "exploding upwards", at least after the initial fuel fireball, which went in all directions.
"All that is necessary for tyranny to succeed is for good men to do nothing." (unknown)

James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis."

Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."

Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."
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#19
Fair enough, I stand corrected: upwards is an overstatement.

How about outwards?

or How about this; is what you saw consistent with collapse?

Thanks
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#20
To my (untrained) eye it appeared to be a collapse. However, watching it live, I somehow knew the South Tower building was going to "collapse" a few seconds in advance. I cannot say if I saw the upper section start to lean sideways, or buckle, or if there was some sort of vibration that I subconsciously perceived, but I said, out loud, "That building's coming down!" and then it did. When the dust cleared I was quite surprised at how little remained; I was expecting a far greater portion of the lower building to remain intact.

I did not see any similar sign of the North Tower start to collapse.

I saw material being ejected to the sides as well, and I have been told (both) that the sideways ejection of steel beams at speed is anomalous, and that it is normal. This is a poor analogy at best, however, when I am breaking a handful of uncooked spaghetti sticks (for my kid's favorite meal) there is an awful lot of small bits of spaghetti in all directions on the kitchen counter.

So, in truth, I cannot say my personal observations were "consistent with collapse" nor "inconsistent." In view of completeness, however, let me say that what I saw of Building 7 going down is consistent with controlled demolition.
"All that is necessary for tyranny to succeed is for good men to do nothing." (unknown)

James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis."

Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."

Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."
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