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David Josephs Wrote:Just like how my kneeling man is made out of leaves, light and shadow... he has to be real, according to your tortured logic. but he's not.

You might consider that you're wrong and the rest of us aren't... that even Duncan will admit he did this just to get people like you going in circles...

No matter Albert... you'll be wrong on this no matter how many times you protest or how many times we explain it

::headbang:: ::headbang:: ::headbang::



Not working David. The button argument I presented has nothing to do with that other stuff you are using to avoid it. It is credible in and of itself and its internal logic and demands an answer. The sign of its credibility is your embarrassing inability to answer it directly or credibly show what is wrong with it by addressing its points instead of referring to irrelevant other evidence.


You're using a flagrant strawman to avoid answering a very credible argument I've made concerning MacRae's evidence.


You've really disgraced yourself here and damaged your credibility.


Argument of Deep Politics is always based on empirical facts and scientific argument and not the forcing of a political position over fact.


The odds of 4 buttons showing up in perfect order right where they should be by chance is astronomical and indicates something real that is there. You're arguing angels on the head of a pin sophistry vs what's plainly obvious.
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This thread I believe has run its course. I'm going to suggest to the other moderators that it be retired.

Personally, I can be persuaded by most every theory because the evidence is so sparse. I am persuaded it's not Billy Lovelady. With respect to DJ, I don't buy the Coat Lady theory.

After that, my imagination takes over. Since he does not appear to be reacting like everyone else to the motorcade he's gotta be something sinister. THEREFORE, he's a CIA operative stationed to make observations of things that will need "cleaning up." I like it. Sounds cool.

But seriously, folks this thread has jumped the shark. IMO.
"We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I

"We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl
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Lauren, I don't think you've adequately answered my scientific argument. I haven't seen anybody here who suggested it was Lovelady.




Quote:The odds of 4 buttons showing up in perfect order right where they should be by chance is astronomical and indicates something real that is there.



This is not a matter of respect to members it is a matter of respect to evidence.
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Albert Doyle Wrote:Lauren, I don't think you've adequately answered my scientific argument. I haven't seen anybody here who suggested it was Lovelady.




Quote:The odds of 4 buttons showing up in perfect order right where they should be by chance is astronomical and indicates something real that is there.



This is not a matter of respect to members it is a matter of respect to evidence.

Oh puhleeeeese. You're just a gd troll.

::gtfo::
"We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I

"We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl
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Lauren Johnson Wrote:
Albert Doyle Wrote:Lauren, I don't think you've adequately answered my scientific argument. I haven't seen anybody here who suggested it was Lovelady.




Quote:The odds of 4 buttons showing up in perfect order right where they should be by chance is astronomical and indicates something real that is there.



This is not a matter of respect to members it is a matter of respect to evidence.

Oh puhleeeeese. You're just a gd troll.

::gtfo::

"...And don'tcha come back no more no more no more no more...."
Mr. HILL. The right rear portion of his head was missing. It was lying in the rear seat of the car. His brain was exposed. There was blood and bits of brain all over the entire rear portion of the car. Mrs. Kennedy was completely covered with blood. There was so much blood you could not tell if there had been any other wound or not, except for the one large gaping wound in the right rear portion of the head.

Warren Commission testimony of Secret Service Agent Clinton J. Hill, 1964
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Marlene Zenker Wrote:
Donald Manning Wrote:That ID of Frasier peeked my interest and it's much better quality than what I got from the net.
Think you need to put this here too though, I got to page14 over there but it's not easy.

[Image: xsx.gif]

Looks like Sean's man is buttoning up his sleeves before getting back to work with the rest of them,
(or okay opening a can of... kick ass).

Donald, I think that's the best explanation of what Prayer Man is doing - I don't recall anyone suggesting that in the entire thread.

It looks like he's eating his lunch. It looks like he's holding something (a lunch sack?), and then it looks like he's digging into it (that could be the "buttoning" activity it looks like he might be engaged in, but I think if you look carefully you can see his hand disappear into whatever it is he's holding - at least that's the way it looks to my naked untrained eye).
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Michael Cross Wrote:Because he's trying to get it through to you that your "original" HAS BEEN HEAVILY ALTERED WHICH DAVID JOSEPH'S EXAMPLES SHOW CLEARLY.



I can prove this isn't correct. If you go to page 53 of the Education Forum Sean Murphy thread and look at post #791 you'll see that Sean himself posted a purple image of Darnell where you can clearly detect the buttons. Michael you are claiming that MacRae photoshopped the buttons in to his enlargement. The fact that the originator of the Oswald as Prayer Man theory, Sean Murphy himself, showed a Darnell image that possessed the buttons proves beyond a doubt that MacRae did not add them. This proves that your claim here that MacRae's enlargement was "heavily altered" is completely incorrect since I have scientifically proven that the buttons existed in Darnell's original, as Sean Murphy shows.


Now that I have proven that the buttons (or fasteners) are a reality and exist in Darnell's original any credible researcher analyzing this would feel behooved to answer what they show. If you look at the lowest of those fasteners you'll see that it is too low on the garment to match any clothing Lee Harvey Oswald was known to be wearing that day. Also, the spacing count of the visible fasteners is too numerous for any shirt Oswald possessed. This is, unfortunately, conclusive proof that Prayer Man cannot possibly be Oswald.


By the way, the purple Darnell frame shown by Murphy in this reference is the same one shown by David Josephs.
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Did Albert actually get the boot from this forum?
Mr. HILL. The right rear portion of his head was missing. It was lying in the rear seat of the car. His brain was exposed. There was blood and bits of brain all over the entire rear portion of the car. Mrs. Kennedy was completely covered with blood. There was so much blood you could not tell if there had been any other wound or not, except for the one large gaping wound in the right rear portion of the head.

Warren Commission testimony of Secret Service Agent Clinton J. Hill, 1964
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On moderation Bob.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Ray Mitcham Wrote:
Drew Phipps Wrote:Here is the post with the picture in it:

https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/sho...lved/page7

Here is the actual image:

[Image: attachment.php?attachmentid=7519&stc=1]

I caution you against reading too much into that, as I have before.

If it was the woman in the long coat, why would she, apparently, roll her sleeves up? Anybody know a woman who would rolls the sleeves of an outer coat up?

A good point, Mr. Mitcham.

Have met quite a few sir who would simply remove the whole garment altogether and lay it across her/their arms, but not one yet who rolled her sleeves up in such a fashion akin to Lee Harvey Oswald standing there. There are just some things women aren't prone to doing. Yes, it's feasible they could stand to wee in the bathroom stall, but highly unlikely.

In their haste to make Billy Nolan Lovelady "Doorway Man" they made their final offer, thus placing him away from the position of Mr. Murphy's (Sean) Prayer Man... Oops!
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