The San Bernardino shooters became radicalized years before they became engaged. CBS News correspondent Carter Evans has the latest details for CBSN.
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The video is useless, the gem is in the title: Years before Daesh. So this finally puts that conspiracy theory to rest. Good riddance! Keep your government sponsored conspiracy theories off my TV.
"All that is necessary for tyranny to succeed is for good men to do nothing." (unknown)
James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis."
Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."
Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."
And Lee Harvey Oswald became a Marxist in junior high. ::puppet::
You think about how much easier it is today to put together fake histories of people, complete with fake internet postings, text messages, emails, fake videos, etc.
“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him.â€
― Leo Tolstoy,
From this post is this newschopper sequence. You only need to watch from 7:15 onwards:
So, can someone explain to me how the situation went from the SUV stopped, with cops on foot behind it, with apparently, the male perp already down and dead - to this:
Btw, it does look as though the "suspect" is face down and already handcuffed (at 7:37), although this is not clear because the newschopper have purposely avoided zooming in for greater detail.
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13-12-2015, 11:04 AM (This post was last modified: 13-12-2015, 11:59 AM by Peter Lemkin.)
This is the shot you mean Dave.....seem to me the only thing that could have transformed this into the other official image of the 'end' of the shootout would be a staged event!
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Peter Lemkin Wrote:This is the shot you mean Dave.....seem to me the only thing that could have transformed this into the other official image of the 'end' of the shootout would be a staged event!
Yep, that's the conclusion I come up with too - especially as I can still find no photos, news clips of the vital period in between the end of the news clip and the surrounding of the SUV by the 7th cavalry -- which strikes me as being of significance.
But I'm open to any reasonable other scenario.
In the news-chopper clip the windows of the SUV are all apparently intact, the SUV drivers door is open and to me, it looks like the suspect/perp has tried to get away and been shot dead. Perhaps the cops were concerned the diminutive wife was still in the vehicle and needed to surround it and let all hell loose to kill her?
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
OK so now I am officially confused. A few days ago I heard on the radio that there was an active shooter drill that very day (actually I heard that part the first day) at the exact same place as the "event". So then I searched that and found a story that said this had occurred. Now this morning on John Potash's (sp?) facebook page there is an article, called "the best" on this case that only talks about an active shooter drill at that same location a year ago. No mention of it also being there, that day. I did not share the story on my page.
I know the mainstream press can't get their stories straight, but is the alt press having similar difficulties?
“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him.â€
― Leo Tolstoy,
R.K. Locke Wrote:It has now been revealed that the purported shooters did not in fact post support for ISIS or jihad on social media. What a fucking surprise, hey?
This is the latest on the alleged gun-supplying neighbour, from Reuters:
Can you post a link (or more) that states that the shooters did not post support for ISIS on social media please?
In regard to the neighbours supplying weapons, whatever happened regarding the report that one of the assault rifles was bought by someone on behalf of the police department?
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
