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ISIS: Terror In America
#21
Lauren Johnson Wrote:
Ken Garretson Wrote:http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2015/12/04/...o-shooting

That's the one. Thanks.

Thanks guys!
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#22
Willy Loman is always a good read on these things. Lots of stuff to ponder.

We some times here that police will throw down a knife or a gun. Maybe they threw down a couple of dead patsies.
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#23
This attorney seems to be reaching to say the least. Time will tell
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#24
"We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I

"We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl
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#25
I'm sure all have now heard it has officially be designated by the FBI [and other Federal Agencies] as a Terrorist Incident.....expect some new 'Police Powers' either locally or through Federal Legislation soon. It will does not add up. The woman above could of course be wrong in what she saw and remembers, but she says three muscular white men. That is very different than two persons, a man and woman who are not white and not muscular.
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#26
Peter Lemkin Wrote:I'm sure all have now heard it has officially be designated by the FBI [and other Federal Agencies] as a Terrorist Incident.....expect some new 'Police Powers' either locally or through Federal Legislation soon. It will does not add up. The woman above could of course be wrong in what she saw and remembers, but she says three muscular white men. That is very different than two persons, a man and woman who are not white and not muscular.

She seemed to have a pretty clear and definite memory to me.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
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#27
Ken Garretson Wrote:http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2015/12/04/...o-shooting

Having spent 3 hours with the FBI this guy seems to me to have a fair and reasonable sense of what he learned. And "it doesn't add up".

This, together with the other report of the lady witness who said she saw three "well built" white men - when apparently the woman involved weighed only 90 pounds and, according to the family lawyer, wouldn't have been able to wear body armour or haul around a big assault rifle ---- and we have what they call in law enforcement as.... deflection.

That's what it's beginning to sound like to me anyway.

Keep the public on the verge of fear. Then anything the government does in Syria against ISIS in the coming days and weeks is going to sail though without hindrance --- especially as the US presence there is in contravention of international law.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#28
Note too that the 'media' are all using the most unflattering photo of the man as they could find - with his eyes half closed and rolled up and no smile on his face. I have seen others that make him look just like most anyone when they pose for a photo - smiling, normal, pleasant. They wouldn't want to use any of those photos!..that is not part of their job description - which also includes not to paint the situation and evidence fairly. Their job is to convict in the public mind - just as they did with Oswald in 1963 - absolutely nothing has changed in the roles of the Police, FBI, Media, etc. As a People, as a Nation, as a Culture, as for political awareness, have we learned nothing from all of what has gone before - apparently not!
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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#29
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Note too that the 'media' are all using the most unflattering photo of the man as they could find - with his eyes half closed and rolled up and no smile on his face. I have seen others that make him look just like most anyone when they pose for a photo - smiling, normal, pleasant. They wouldn't want to use any of those photos!..that is not part of their job description - which also includes not to paint the situation and evidence fairly. Their job is to convict in the public mind - just as they did with Oswald in 1963 - absolutely nothing has changed in the roles of the Police, FBI, Media, etc. As a People, as a Nation, as a Culture, as for political awareness, have we learned nothing from all of what has gone before - apparently not!

Sadly the political class and the media and the security state have been captured by the Neocon zealots --- and now truth and facts are discarded for the greater agenda. The US has been bloody awful and foul, politically speaking for 3 or more decades, but I've never before seen such a disconnect to reality as I see today.

Which leads me to conclude that the US must be in a very seriously dire situation - and the elite know it, hence what we are seeing. For me I suspect the end game will either be the loss of dollar hegemony - and eventually the collapse of the US empire and military might -- or the perpetual war strategy that is in danger of running out of control sooner or later.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#30
Don't forget the "muscular white men" that were seen in Paris as well.
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