shots from behind / shots from in front

[Albert Doyle]

It is silly to think a highly coordinated CIA black op would not be able to retain its spent shells.

[Phil Dagosto]

No spent shells were found behind the fence, therefore, no shooter was there - that's the argument I've heard frequently.

Probably because those guys were smart enough to police up their used cartridges and the guys in the TSBD deliberately planted used M-C shells that weren't actually fired that day.

That's what any halfway intelligent person might conclude, but it's obviously too much for them.

The other favorite Talking Point/argument is that no one *saw* a sniper behind the fence. It's at this point you need to remind them that you aren't supposed to see snipers. That's why they are called snipers. You also need to remind them that when the President of the United States is five feet away from you, and his head happens to be getting razed at the time, your attention is not trained on some shrubs off to the side.

Lee Bowers probably did but, as I understand it, the questioner during his WC testimony abruptly changed the subject when Bowers started describing what he actually saw. Then of course he passed away in an "accident". Anyway, no one actually "saw" Oswald in the 6th floor window either.

[David Josephs]

Anyway, no one actually "saw" Oswald in the 6th floor window either.

Someone tried to claim they did...




Brennan on the wall - notice him looking up at all?

Z140 - Z170

[Phil Dagosto]

No, I don't see him looking up and from what I understand he was coached (coerced?) to testify to stuff that would support the frame up.

How could be possibly tell that the guy he "saw" in the window was "in his early 30s, slender, nice looking and would weigh 165 to 175 pounds" when the window only opened about a foot or so which meant anyone shooting from it would have to be crouched down making most of his body not visible. My understanding is that the panes of the window were so dirty that it would have been difficult to discern the features of anyone standing behind it. Furthermore, Oswald barely weighed 140 lbs - the 165 lbs figure comes right out of the falsified "Lee Henry Oswald" file that CIA HQ sent to the MC station in response to the report of the Oswald imposter calling (more correctly, appearing to call; the whole thing was likely faked) the Soviet embassy from the Cuban embassy.

[Albert Doyle]

Lee Bowers probably did but, as I understand it, the questioner during his WC testimony abruptly changed the subject when Bowers started describing what he actually saw. Then of course he passed away in an "accident". Anyway, no one actually "saw" Oswald in the 6th floor window either.

Bowers absolutely did. If you listen to his interview with Mark Lane he said something like "I could not say then nor can I say now". He was indirectly telling Lane he couldn't talk. He had his fingertip cut off to make sure he remembered to keep his mouth shut. He was later offed by black op to make sure he never did.